Married to your steel
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Married to your steel
If you had the chance what would you do?
Stay married to your wife?
Or......married to your steel?
Ron
Stay married to your wife?
Or......married to your steel?
Ron
<small>GIRLS vs GUITARS
Guitars don't get pregnant.
You can play your Guitar any time of the month.
Guitars don't have parents.
Guitars don't whine... unless you want them to.
You can share your Guitar with your friends.
Guitars don't care how many other Guitars you've played
Guitars don't care how many other Guitars you have.
Guitars don't care if you look at other Guitars.
Guitars don't care if you buy Guitar magazines.
You'll never hear, "Surprise, you are going to proud father of a new Guitar" unless you go out to buy one yourself.
If your Guitar is flat you can fix it.
Your Guitar doesn't care if you never listen to it.
Your Guitar won't care if you leave up the toilet seat.
You don't have to be jealous of the guy who works on your Guitar.
If you say bad things to your Guitar, you don't have to apologize before you play it again.
You can play your Guitar as long as you want and it won't get sore.
You can stop playing your Guitar as soon as you want and it won't get frustrated.
Your parents won't remain in touch with your old Guitar after you dump it.
Guitars don't get headaches.
Guitars don't insult you if you're a bad player.
Your Guitar never wants a night out with the other Guitars.
Guitars don't care if you're late.
You don't have to take a shower before you play your Guitar.
If your Guitar doesn't look good you can refinish it or get new parts.
You can play your Guitar the first time you meet it, without having to take it to dinner, see a movie, or meet its mother.
The only protection you have to wear when playing your Guitar is a decent thumb pick.
When in mixed company, you can talk about what a great time you had the last time you played your Guitar.
When you're tired of your guitar you can sell it and get a new one,
or you can just get a new one and keep the old one for infrequent use.</small>
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<FONT face="arial" SIZE=3 COLOR="#003388">Peter den Hartogh</font>
<font face="arial" size=1><B><I>1978 Emmons S10 P/P; 1977 Sho-Bud D10 ProIII Custom;
1975 Fender Artist S10; Remington U12; 1947 Gibson BR4;</I></B></font>
<font face="arial" size=2>Internationally Accredited 3D Animation Academy</font>
Guitars don't get pregnant.
You can play your Guitar any time of the month.
Guitars don't have parents.
Guitars don't whine... unless you want them to.
You can share your Guitar with your friends.
Guitars don't care how many other Guitars you've played
Guitars don't care how many other Guitars you have.
Guitars don't care if you look at other Guitars.
Guitars don't care if you buy Guitar magazines.
You'll never hear, "Surprise, you are going to proud father of a new Guitar" unless you go out to buy one yourself.
If your Guitar is flat you can fix it.
Your Guitar doesn't care if you never listen to it.
Your Guitar won't care if you leave up the toilet seat.
You don't have to be jealous of the guy who works on your Guitar.
If you say bad things to your Guitar, you don't have to apologize before you play it again.
You can play your Guitar as long as you want and it won't get sore.
You can stop playing your Guitar as soon as you want and it won't get frustrated.
Your parents won't remain in touch with your old Guitar after you dump it.
Guitars don't get headaches.
Guitars don't insult you if you're a bad player.
Your Guitar never wants a night out with the other Guitars.
Guitars don't care if you're late.
You don't have to take a shower before you play your Guitar.
If your Guitar doesn't look good you can refinish it or get new parts.
You can play your Guitar the first time you meet it, without having to take it to dinner, see a movie, or meet its mother.
The only protection you have to wear when playing your Guitar is a decent thumb pick.
When in mixed company, you can talk about what a great time you had the last time you played your Guitar.
When you're tired of your guitar you can sell it and get a new one,
or you can just get a new one and keep the old one for infrequent use.</small>
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<FONT face="arial" SIZE=3 COLOR="#003388">Peter den Hartogh</font>
<font face="arial" size=1><B><I>1978 Emmons S10 P/P; 1977 Sho-Bud D10 ProIII Custom;
1975 Fender Artist S10; Remington U12; 1947 Gibson BR4;</I></B></font>
<font face="arial" size=2>Internationally Accredited 3D Animation Academy</font>
I believe you meant that in humor. And I enjoy humor with the best of them.
As long as it does not get in the gutter.
But on a more serious vain. If anything, including one's wife becomes an "idol", we are told it is a sin. Our wives should be second ONLY to Jesus. Marriage is the only institution that Jesus ever sanctified.
"Husbands, love your wives as Jesus loved the church."
He said, "a man shall leave his parents and he and his wife shall become one". Sadly that sanctification has for the most part vanished. As are most everything else he commanded.
And in my case, "That last footstep's mine"
Which hurts me more than one could ever fathom. I guess this is why the humor (and I did laugh at both posts), caused pain.
How sad
carl
As long as it does not get in the gutter.
But on a more serious vain. If anything, including one's wife becomes an "idol", we are told it is a sin. Our wives should be second ONLY to Jesus. Marriage is the only institution that Jesus ever sanctified.
"Husbands, love your wives as Jesus loved the church."
He said, "a man shall leave his parents and he and his wife shall become one". Sadly that sanctification has for the most part vanished. As are most everything else he commanded.
And in my case, "That last footstep's mine"
Which hurts me more than one could ever fathom. I guess this is why the humor (and I did laugh at both posts), caused pain.
How sad
carl
Carl, of course this was meant in jest.
It was also hopelessly off topic.
<marquee>(Ok, I see it has been moved.)</marquee>
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Carl, I do not know the bible well enough, but it also says somewhere that we have to nurture our happiness.
(Sorry, being from the Netherlands, I do not know the correct English phrase for this).
So, my dear friend, I respectfully suggest you look at these things in a lighter way.
This will brighten up your world, I promise.
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Ronald, I copied this from a previous post on the Forum.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Peter on 14 August 2004 at 12:35 PM.]</p></FONT>
It was also hopelessly off topic.
<marquee>(Ok, I see it has been moved.)</marquee>
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Carl, I do not know the bible well enough, but it also says somewhere that we have to nurture our happiness.
(Sorry, being from the Netherlands, I do not know the correct English phrase for this).
So, my dear friend, I respectfully suggest you look at these things in a lighter way.
This will brighten up your world, I promise.
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Ronald, I copied this from a previous post on the Forum.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Peter on 14 August 2004 at 12:35 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Carl! I think that sometimes when you start preaching at us on this forum, you are forgetting that this is a Steel Guitar Forum, NOT a Christian Chat Room.
I do belong to a Christian Forum for edification when I so desire. However, when I come on the Steel Guitar Forum my purpose is to get information on steel players and the pedal steel guitar, and not to be preached at.
I do belong to a Christian Forum for edification when I so desire. However, when I come on the Steel Guitar Forum my purpose is to get information on steel players and the pedal steel guitar, and not to be preached at.
<small>tbhenry (Brian?), I am sure you have seen hundreds of excellent posts by Carl with LOTS and LOTS of very valuable information on steel players and the pedal steel guitar. So please give him a bit of slack.
This thread isn't about the pedal steel guitar anyway. It's about steel players wives (I think)
Maybe Roland can tell us more....</small><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Peter on 14 August 2004 at 01:41 PM.]</p></FONT>
This thread isn't about the pedal steel guitar anyway. It's about steel players wives (I think)
Maybe Roland can tell us more....</small><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Peter on 14 August 2004 at 01:41 PM.]</p></FONT>
Tb,
My name is clearly at the beginning of every one of my posts, and the name is spelt correctly.
You could take your entire post and apply it dirctly to everything Jesus said and told us to do. In fact he WAS crucified for that.
Jesus said, "if you deny me before men, I will deny you before God". Sitting in a church on a Sunday morning is watching "preaching to the choir". That verse is easy to fulfill there.
He meant ALL the time, where ever we are, be it on a SGF or in the halls of the United States Congress. I will try to follow his commandments.
Do as you feel led to do.
If my posts are offensive to you,
Don't read em!
carl
My name is clearly at the beginning of every one of my posts, and the name is spelt correctly.
You could take your entire post and apply it dirctly to everything Jesus said and told us to do. In fact he WAS crucified for that.
Jesus said, "if you deny me before men, I will deny you before God". Sitting in a church on a Sunday morning is watching "preaching to the choir". That verse is easy to fulfill there.
He meant ALL the time, where ever we are, be it on a SGF or in the halls of the United States Congress. I will try to follow his commandments.
Do as you feel led to do.
If my posts are offensive to you,
Don't read em!
carl
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I started this thread because i thought it was funny.Right now it does not look funny anymore.I know that the forum is for steel guitar players and their instruments.But i do not think that the forum is made to make eachothers lives misserable.Steel guitar players are thinly sown in the world and it would be my wish that we can get along with oneanother.
Ron
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Ron,
It's very clear to me how you intended this. So here's my two cents worth.
I’m not a steeler; but I’ve been married to one for 6 years. Tommy and I each have two grown sons. I’m with him now at a less complicated time in our life-cycles – unlike when he and his first wife were struggling to raise two sons and put them through school. We all know our time isn’t really our own to be as spontaneous as we’d sometimes like when raising a family. Those who DO make it their own during this time, usually live to regret some of the things they said “NO” to in order to say “YES” to interests that lead to an unbalanced life.
Fortunately, he doesn’t have to CHOOSE. No, he DOESN'T have a real balance. (sorry, hon)but I knew that when I married him, I also married his music. I'm not sure what key I said "I Do" in, and the three of us have gotten along very well so far. Rule is, though -- he can have as many guitars as he can afford, but ONLY one wife!
But if he did have to choose, I would hope he would choose his steel because those ZumSteels look as gorgeous today as they did when Bruce started building them years ago!! (you're welcome, Bruce!)
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Donna Dodd on 14 August 2004 at 03:34 PM.]</p></FONT>
It's very clear to me how you intended this. So here's my two cents worth.
I’m not a steeler; but I’ve been married to one for 6 years. Tommy and I each have two grown sons. I’m with him now at a less complicated time in our life-cycles – unlike when he and his first wife were struggling to raise two sons and put them through school. We all know our time isn’t really our own to be as spontaneous as we’d sometimes like when raising a family. Those who DO make it their own during this time, usually live to regret some of the things they said “NO” to in order to say “YES” to interests that lead to an unbalanced life.
Fortunately, he doesn’t have to CHOOSE. No, he DOESN'T have a real balance. (sorry, hon)but I knew that when I married him, I also married his music. I'm not sure what key I said "I Do" in, and the three of us have gotten along very well so far. Rule is, though -- he can have as many guitars as he can afford, but ONLY one wife!
But if he did have to choose, I would hope he would choose his steel because those ZumSteels look as gorgeous today as they did when Bruce started building them years ago!! (you're welcome, Bruce!)
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Donna Dodd on 14 August 2004 at 03:34 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Peter, Like you I have learned much from brother Carl with regards to the pedal steel guitar and steel players. He is very knowlegeable.
However, the steel guitar forum has a mission and rules and when he strays from the topic at hand and persecutes us with his religious views, I think that he is oput of place.
I happen to be a committed christian but have refrained from using this forum as a religious platform. It is clear that this is not the place for prosletizing nor trying to push our own personal religious agenda.
Can you imagine if we all engaged in this practice? There would be no computer space to talk about steel guitars.
However, the steel guitar forum has a mission and rules and when he strays from the topic at hand and persecutes us with his religious views, I think that he is oput of place.
I happen to be a committed christian but have refrained from using this forum as a religious platform. It is clear that this is not the place for prosletizing nor trying to push our own personal religious agenda.
Can you imagine if we all engaged in this practice? There would be no computer space to talk about steel guitars.
I would hope we can all seperate humor from reality, yet sometimes humor is a reflection of our situations. While Jesus IS the answer, it is evident He gave us the ability to understand a good pun, or an ironic situation.
We live the frustrations of imperfection and a corny joke or a Large Gaffaw will help us thru.
And God bless Carl. A shining light with the heart of David, whose only prayer was to dwell in the House of the Lord forever.
I'll second that.
We live the frustrations of imperfection and a corny joke or a Large Gaffaw will help us thru.
And God bless Carl. A shining light with the heart of David, whose only prayer was to dwell in the House of the Lord forever.
I'll second that.
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What's the difference if it's a steel, a trumpet, or a piano?
If you have to make that choice then "there's something rotten in the state of Denmark."...or the Netherlands...
If you have to make that choice then "there's something rotten in the state of Denmark."...or the Netherlands...
Yes, augmentation works both theoretically and surgically. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by HowardR on 14 August 2004 at 09:33 PM.]</p></FONT><SMALL>If your Guitar is flat you can fix it.</SMALL>
Being as it hit me a little more serious than you perhaps meant it.
But I like things the way they are.
Kind of undefined.
There are times, when I look at that Old Sho Bud. And until you mentioned it, I can't stop crying for some reason. I'm not going to try, except typing doesn't work very well at these times.... Maybe I'm just a little extra tired..
It's been the common thread in my life of all of it. It even waited for me to quit drinking in '80. It's sadly outlived pets and people with more yet sadly to come.
I think that pore old thing has come very personable and close to me.
Thanks for reminding me of that.
I love My Wife, too, but in different ways.
Eric J Lundgren<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Eric West on 14 August 2004 at 10:48 PM.]</p></FONT>
But I like things the way they are.
Kind of undefined.
There are times, when I look at that Old Sho Bud. And until you mentioned it, I can't stop crying for some reason. I'm not going to try, except typing doesn't work very well at these times.... Maybe I'm just a little extra tired..
It's been the common thread in my life of all of it. It even waited for me to quit drinking in '80. It's sadly outlived pets and people with more yet sadly to come.
I think that pore old thing has come very personable and close to me.
Thanks for reminding me of that.
I love My Wife, too, but in different ways.
Eric J Lundgren<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Eric West on 14 August 2004 at 10:48 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Beyond a specific guitar or instrument, the structure of music makes sense to me in a way that no human being or social mechanism ever has. I have a few friends who work as theoretical mathematicians, and they say that higher mathematics also has that kind of pristine inner logic. It's nice to have a world to retreat to in which the application of logic, hard work and careful thought results in measurable progress.
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