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Topic: C6th, D on top or G ,who uses what |
Willis Vanderberg
From:
Petoskey Mi
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Posted 29 Jul 2004 7:41 pm |
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It seems to me that years ago everyone had the G on top,is that right ? who and when did the D on top come along,which do you use , why ?
As usual I only have questions and no answers..
Old Bud
Ps: Al Marcus, where are you when I need your expertise ? |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2004 8:02 pm
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I think Buddy Emmons started it.
I have G on top, and D between C and E where God intended it to be! 
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2004 8:07 pm
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Willis, I have the "D" first string. Great single string lies all over the place with it.
Jerry |
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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 29 Jul 2004 8:58 pm
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| What Jerry said.It almost plays itself. |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2004 9:38 pm
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I learned some stuff on my Oahu 6 string lap where I had to grab that G further up on the neck, but now with my Carter D-10 it's nice to have that G on top to get to on the same fret. BTW I'm new at steel and am really makin some good progress with it thanks to all you forum members. 
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Carter D-10/C6 & E9, Oahu 6 string lap/C6, and two Resonators/open G
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2004 10:45 pm
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Just swap it out every two weeks like I did for years; and you'll do cool stuff with the G and you'll do cool stuff with the D and just have fun.
Of course I only play a single-10 Shobud LDG now; so that's beside my own point..ha.
Ricky |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 3:11 am
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Just play a U-12 and you'll have 'em both except they'll be F# & C# for the B6 tuning.
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 4:20 am
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| I wonder if anyone has toyed with the idea of putting a "D" on top of the "G"? |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 4:20 am
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I have been using the G on top most of the last year, but put the D on before I went to the usa for a steel jam, expecting to play a "normal" C6 neck...
and no one brought one... go figure.
At this instant it is D because I was working on some of Buddy's TAB, but I still find the G on top logic of going right up the scale for higher notes too good to miss.
There are a few voicings for D top has that are cool,
but others the G top has, and an higher range.
I go with that.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 30 July 2004 at 05:22 AM.] |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 4:31 am
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Indeed!
On a D-10, I would have to go with the D. For the same reasons Buddy put it on there (in lieu of the G). But I sho' nuf would miss the G. The universal solves it completely. As it does for other things, IMO. Also, on a U-12, you have a high "6th" (G#) which I am using more and more in the B6th mode. Love it
I would strongly suggest that if you play a D-10 and put the D on top (instead of the G) you add a knee lever that pulls 3 and 7 to C#. This will give you the "missed triad" 3 frets up. If you engage pedal 5 with it, you have even more at this "3 fret up" place.
If I ever went back to a double neck PSG, I would insist on the C neck being 11 strings because of the above. But I still would put the D on top. For the same reason the F# and D# is out of order on E9th.
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Tony Dingus
From:
Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 4:34 am
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What Carl said!
Tony[This message was edited by Tony Dingus on 30 July 2004 at 05:40 AM.] |
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David Spires
From:
Millersport, OH
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 4:43 am
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"D" on top for me. Reason, it adds a similar chromatic feel like the E9th tuning, and --- because Buddy and Paul do!
:-)
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 6:45 am
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When Herby Wallace puts a "D" on top, I will. You can't beat Herby's C6th playing!
Erv |
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Nicholas Dedring
From:
Beacon, New York, USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 8:01 am
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G on top, if it's Bob Wills and Hank Williams, D on top if it's more hinky newer scalar/modal stuff.
Buy a dozen .012s, and a dozen .017s (I think that's what I've been using...) and just throw on what suits you at the moment. I find I have to change those first two or three strings on C6 a lot, they get grungy from having an arm skating over them all the time. |
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Willis Vanderberg
From:
Petoskey Mi
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 8:04 am
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You guys amaze me, you sound so logical, and I know, you have to half nuts to try and understand these instruments. My big regret in life, is I only been learning this thing for fifty eight years and don't have enough time left to learn all I want to know.
But I won't give up.....
Al Marcus where are you ?
Old Bud |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 8:16 am
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On my D10, I still use the G. On my D12, I use both.
I guess I'm still way too dependent on the G for 90% of my jazz chord melody playing. I also love the old G to G# change thats on my
5th pedal. Since I do have the D12, I understand the single note D thing that everybody talks about, but just like anything else, you can always find other ways to play the lines youre looking for (at the speed your chops allow). Lord know's, I totally agree that anything Buddy and all the rest of the big boys feel is important, is worth serious consideration!
On my D12, I have a half stop on my LKV (not forum approved I think ) that raises the high C to C# then to D. I'm really becoming dependent on it. It allows most of the chords that having D on top gives you, plus it provides alot of pockets to play fast single note triplets etc....in a way very similar to the high D. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2004 8:23 am
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| I'm moving this to the "Pedal Steel" section, because that's where it belongs. |
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