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Topic: Cheaper in Europe ? |
Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 23 Dec 2003 10:19 pm |
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Are prices on steels becoming more reasonable with the weakening dollar for you European guys ? Are the builders/dealers finding more orders coming from overseas ?
Bob
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Andy Zahnd
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Switzerland
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Posted 24 Dec 2003 1:50 am
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What a great dream! ...... but not true! I wish this will happen soon.... so I'm able to order a new axe....
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David L. Donald
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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 24 Dec 2003 1:57 am
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If you think about stock here from last year no.
But if you think about an import now bought Euros to Dollars yes 20+% cheaper.
The rate is $1.24 to the euro.
A $5,000 steel like a full boat Millenium would be 4240.€ including shipping before taxes.
Of course add 19.6% sales tax.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 24 December 2003 at 01:58 AM.] |
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Ole Dantoft
From:
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted 24 Dec 2003 5:23 am
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[This message was edited by Ole Dantoft on 26 February 2004 at 10:52 AM.] |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 24 Dec 2003 10:34 am
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Twenty-five percent sales tax?!? :O!
That's not taxation, dudes... that's confiscation!
A couple of related quotes: Oliver Wendell Holmes said "taxation is the price we pay for living in a civilized society."
Charlie Parker, when asked what he thought about civilization, said "Civilization is great. People ought to try it sometime."
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Emmett Roch
From:
Texas Hill Country
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Posted 24 Dec 2003 11:11 am
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There's something cheap in Europe?????
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Ole Dantoft
From:
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted 26 Dec 2003 3:42 pm
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[This message was edited by Ole Dantoft on 26 February 2004 at 10:53 AM.] |
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Heiko Aehle
From:
Bretleben GERMANY
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Posted 29 Dec 2003 11:37 am
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Getting a steel is costly the same way like in the states. Getting the same good sound like you guys (overseas) is the problem ...  |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 29 Dec 2003 4:04 pm
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Herb if you think 25% sales tax is bad ,
try Norwegian inheritance taxes..
A mind numbing 75%
And on another odd note, my cousin Polly lives in Oliver Wendell Holmes home.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 29 December 2003 at 04:11 PM.] |
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Steinar Gregertsen
From:
Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 29 Dec 2003 5:03 pm
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quote:
try Norwegian inheritance taxes..
A mind numbing 75%
David,- where in the world did you get that number from? I'm just about to receive a very generous inheritance, and I can assure you, it's no where near that number. 10% is more like it...... (stop scaring me! )
Anyway,- even with the shipping cost and 24% VAT on import, I've been able to sell instruments I've bought on eBay, with a nice profit over here.
Guess that says a lot about the general price level here........
Steinar
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Joerg Hennig
From:
Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 31 Dec 2003 1:46 pm
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Well what I can say from personal experience is:
The exchange rate is very much in favor of us Europeans right now, so if you´ve got a chance to buy, better do so.
About additional costs: In my case I paid circa 22 per cent of the original price on customs and taxes, plus circa $ 300,00 on shipping (Austin to Munich via FedEx). That was a used instrument, I´m not sure if on new ones there might be something extra.
After all, the only alternative would be to buy a guitar right here, and 1) you will have to be very lucky to find exactly the kind of guitar you´re looking for, and 2) prices for steels that are already in Europe more often than not are simply exaggerated. I see that all the time. For instance, two years ago I paid 3800 marks (1943 Euros) for my ShoBud Pro-II Custom, at the current exchange rate that would be more than 2000 dollars. In the U.S. that would be considered way too much for a ShoBud like that in average condition.
Regards, Joe H.
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Tore Blestrud
From:
Oslo, Norway
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Posted 1 Jan 2004 2:29 am
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| After reading on the Forum what you guys in USA get paid per gig, I guess the prices in Europe makes sence. A gig usually pays between 200-300 USD a night, at least in Norway, sometimes more. |
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Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2004 10:08 pm
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| Hell - I'm movin' to Norway! |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 3 Jan 2004 4:31 am
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Steinar, that number was given me by my aunt who lived in Norway for 50 years. I believe she got hammered on her inheritance.
Now since the North Sea oil fields have increased Norwergian coffers considerablly, I suspect the laws have been re-written to be more equitable.
And also Norwegian lawyers and acountants have created ways to mitigate the hit some also.
If you got 10%... good on you.
Since my aunt and uncle passed away, I have not asked (tactlessly) my cousins how bad the hit was for them.
So maybe I am not current. |
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Steinar Gregertsen
From:
Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 3 Jan 2004 5:08 am
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David,- I started to worry a little after your post, since I know our tax system sometimes is ridiculous, so I checked.
It shows that unless you're married to or the child of the diseased, it goes like this:
Up to NOK 250.000 it's free, from 250 to 550.000 it's 10% and over 550.000 it's 30%.
If you're married or the child of the person you're inheriting, the taxes are easier.
(US$ 1 = NOK 7, roughly).
So that was a relief......
Steinar
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