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??? for Buddy Emmons and Paul Franklin

Post by Ricky Littleton »

Buddy / Paul:

You guys have probably been asked this 50 go-zillion times, but I'll ask it anyway.

If you had to pick 2 of your favorite solo's on any singers' session you've done, what would they be?

And second, of your own recorded CD's, tapes and/or albums, what is your favorite tune?

Thanks for your time.

Ricky

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Yeah, and if Flash Gorden fought Tarzan who do you think would be the winner? Inquiring
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"Flash Tarzan", of Course. Image
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Post by David L. Donald »

A cool question, but potentially a loaded one for either player.
Who wants to inadvertantly slight their next call for work...
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Post by Buddy Emmons »

It’s too late for me to worry about slighting my next call for work so I’ll say at this point in time, “So Much Like My Dad,” by George Strait, and “Wish I’d Seen Your Goin’ Comin” by Johnny Bush.
As for my own albums, it's a toss-up between "The Christmas Song" or "I Love You So Much It Hurts Me." Not sure about the length of the last title but it's there in part or parcel.
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Post by Ward Wilsey »

That's interesting that you picked "So Much Like My Dad" Buddy. Your playing was amazing on that cut and really showed how much you enjoyed it. I've always thought that was one of the most beautiful country songs I've ever heard.
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Post by Franklin »

If you are curious as to what songs I am most proud of......the first two that come to mind are "Your Own Sweet way" by The Notting Hillbillies and "Fade to black" by Dire Straits.

Instrumentals....I like from the Players cd, "Coltrane Boogie" for its harmonic stretching and I am still amazed that I survived Mark O'conner's"Pick It Apart".

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i love this place!

you guys are the best.
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Post by Walter Stettner »

Question for Paul:

How do you do this crazy rhythm lick on the Dire Straits rceord "Calling Elvis!? I have been slaving for days and still can't get it right???

Greetings from Vienna, Austria, Walter

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Post by frank rogers »

Great question and even better responses from Buddy and Paul, two of my heroes and two real gentleman.
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Post by Pat Burns »

..Walter, hope I'm not intruding here, but I thought this might help you out...this question has come up a few times before, and Paul gave us his tab back in July...here it is..

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Pat, this is the basic pattern.

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...well, I can't get it to print right on here, but if you click the link below, you'll see Paul's original post with the tab in a legible format..

....he also gave us a bunch of other good stuff in that same thread...here's the link..

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/005865.html

...at someone's recent suggestion, I forget who, I bought the concert video of Dire Strait's "On The Night"...thanks!, whoever suggested that...I believe it was $13.95 on Amazon, and you get some great shots of Paul Franklin on steel, especially playing this lick on "Calling Elvis"...
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Post by Terry Downs »

What a delight to see this kind of dialouge.

Buddy, I almost ran off the road the first time I heard "So Much Like My Dad". That is truly one of my favorites. There could not be a more perfect steel solo. Buddy, your soul was laid out on the strings on that one. It starts to get even more interesting in the fade out, and I would love to have heard the full cut before the fade. Do you recall who played guitar on that song?? The muted strings were so tasteful.

I'm still mesmerized by "Pick it Apart". It is hard to belive that it is humanly possible for someone to play something like that. Paul, I don't suppose you would like to tell us how many takes that took???

Thanks for sharing this information.

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Post by Walter Stettner »

Thanks, Pat!

I wasn't on the Forum in July, that's why that escaped me!!!

Walter

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Post by David L. Donald »

Thanks guys great responces. I will look for them on CD somewhere.
What albums where they on?

Buddy I just got the new Albert Lee cd, and you have some great stuff on there.
There is a slow one and the solo on that is real sweet.

Paul, I have The Players and it is just that some great players having a great time.

Love that Pedalbro tune. What was your copedent for that. I would love to see the TAB for that head. Woowee!
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Paul, that song 'In your own sweet way' was probably the biggest influence in the mid 90s in terms of me taking up the steel again. I thought that this was just my own personal favorite, it's nice to know that it wasn't just me. It was a trip to cover that song for MUZAK, so if you hear that in an airport somewhere, you will know that it was done with respect.

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Post by Joe Casey »

I find it great that after so many super outstanding cuts by B.E.and P.F.,they can actually pick two. I likend it to asking Smiley what his favorite drink is? That answer would be "his next one". That is why I put my finger prints all over his CD's and messed up Buddys Table in St. Louis looking for something I did not have...I left St. Louis satisfied now it's my turn to await "the next one".

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Post by Dave Van Allen »

wow...
two of my favorites, BE's Christmas Song" and PF "Fade to Black" are also their favorites... I guess I can congratulate myself on my good taste Image


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Post by RON PRESTON »

Yes, Paul,
As Terry ask, how many takes did it take on "Pick it apart"? the first time I heard it, I played it for my Brother, Austin Preston back in the early 90's and his remark was something like: "Bet he didn't do THAT in ONE TAKE!" I went and taped it to slow it down to learn it....Ha, Ha, Oh, God, RIGHT...It's 2003, and I'm STILL working on that one....
Killer, Mr. Paul, That's all I can say.
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Are You REALLY from EARTH? A very few who play ANY Instrument like that CAN'T be from HERE. Image
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Ron,

Amen, brother.


Merry Christmas all,

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Post by Bob Carlson »

"So Much Like My Dad"! A very well written song and one I sometimes put on repeat, and listen to five or six times in a row. I sure would like to know what those words were his Dad used to always say.

I notice it was written by Chips Moman and Bobby Emmons...any kin to you Buddy?

And the break...the man can take some simple three and five string stuff, throw in some single string and make it sound far out.

I was just starting on the steel about that time and ordered the intro and break to several of Strait's songs that Buddy had played on from Scotty, and was so surprised when I looked at the tab to "So Much Like My Dad"

Isn't this nice when two of the greats of steel guitar respond to the Forum!

Bob
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Post by Buddy Emmons »

Bob,
No, I’m not related to Bobby Emmons, although I used to get many of his checks at the union. Having to return them broke my heart.

As for So Much Like My Dad, we were on the third take when it occurred to me that no one had played the solo yet, so I jumped in. I hadn’t paid attention to the solo chords up to then so everything I played was drifting from one chord to the next and strictly by the seat of my pants. When we were through they decided that was the take so I told the producer, Tony Brown, I was more familiar with the chords now and would like to have another stab at it. He said okay but he’d keep the original track. I spent the next fifteen minutes trying to beat the original, until finally we all agreed that it wasn’t happening.

The overdubbed solos were phrases I tried to play that were closer to the melody, so they all sounded contrived by comparison and never matched the feel and spontaneity of the original.
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Post by Bob Carlson »

Thanks for responding Buddy.

I'd guess a lot of times it's hard to beat that spontaneous combustion you get on the first take.

I played that song at least six times after I signed off last time hoping he'd tell me just what it was his his daddy used to say...but he never did.

Bob

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I know how that goes, Buddy. I caught Don Mills down at the Union one time picking up one of my checks for Cal Smith.

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Post by Franklin »

I knew we were cutting something fast, but I remember being shocked when I found out at the session Mark was going for the land speed record that day.
We rehearsed the layout on the first half of the session. Then we went for the track after everyone was comfortable with the speed. It took several takes until Mark was satisfied with the rhythm track. Then each player took around three passes at their solos. I was the last in line so I had the most practice time which definately helped me get through it. A couple of passes is what I remember. I never worked so hard in as little time as I did that day.

Playing it live on the American Music Shop was much harder than the recording session.
For those of you who saw that, we also did three passes thanks to the camera crew .....Paul<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Franklin on 19 December 2003 at 05:44 AM.]</p></FONT>
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