Who played steel on Jerry Lee Lewis records?

Nicholas Dedring · Post by **Nicholas Dedring** » 5 Nov 2003 10:08 am

I've got the double-plus album cd for "Another Place Another Time" and "She Even Woke Me Up to Say Goodbye"... no listing of personnel on the liner notes though (which I always hate).

Anybody know who played steel for these sessions? Includes "What Made Milwaukee Famous" and a bunch of others.

Greg Simmons · Post by **Greg Simmons** » 5 Nov 2003 10:14 am

I'm pretty sure it was Ned Davis.

check out this interesting thread... http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/004165.html

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Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 5 Nov 2003 11:45 am

I know that Ned played with him on the road, and recorded at least one live album with the Killer, but I have no evidence that he did the session/studio work. The guitar that I call 'The Tank' (and I believe so does its current owner, Brad Sarno) was bought by Jerry Lee for Ned to use on the tour that supported "What Made Milwaukee Famous". That's about all I know. The albums of that era were VERY sparse on credits on the cover. I think I've heard folks say that the producers would sometimes offer sidemen EITHER a credit on the cover OR pay for the session. Guess which one they usually took.

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Nicholas Dedring · Post by **Nicholas Dedring** » 5 Nov 2003 11:56 am

I saw a credit on a different for Pete Drake doing the picking. Is that possibly who it was on this record? I am not familiar enough with his stuff to be sure...

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 5 Nov 2003 12:09 pm

It would be easier to draw up a list of who Pete Drake did not record with than who he did so if the question is of plausibility, hell yeah.

btw---do the liner notes say what the original label was? [This message was edited by Jon Light on 05 November 2003 at 12:15 PM.]

Dave Burr · Post by **Dave Burr** » 5 Nov 2003 12:35 pm

For what it's worth, the steel on "What Made Milwaukee Famous" doesn't sound like Pete Drake to me... But what the heck do I know.

Give it a listen and see if you can tell. http://recordlady.webgcs.com/main2.htm
It's on Request Page Three.

Once again, thanks to the "Record Lady"!

Respectfully,
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Steve Hinson · Post by **Steve Hinson** » 5 Nov 2003 12:58 pm

"Milwaukee"was Lloyd Green..."She Even Woke me Up"was Ned...Pete Drake did"Touching Home"...and a bunch of others...according to the booklet that came with the"All Killer No Filler"box set...I remember Ned well...he used to come to Macon with Jerry Lee...I ghermed him to death and he was always very nice to me...he is a big reason for me wanting to become a steel guitar player...I remember that steel of his,too...a rosewood Emmons with the sticker on the front.Years later I ran into him at the Blue Rose in Memphis...he still had it,but the sticker had been replaced with a brown and white metal Emmons logo...he used a Standel Custom 15 amp,and then a Peavey when they came out.A great guy who made a HUGE impression on me...[This message was edited by Steve Hinson on 05 November 2003 at 01:11 PM.]

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 5 Nov 2003 3:59 pm

Back in summer of '93 the band I was with (Southern Knights) opened the show for Eddie Rabbit-Ned was with E.R. then-I spoke to him about his appearance in Rabbit's music video "On Second Thought" Ned is featured on the steel break playing Pee Wee Whitewing's Bigsby (which I own) I recall Ned saying my '66 bolt-on sounded great and he enjoyed our opening set that night-between our set and Eddie and his band going on-I got a picture taken of Ned and I in front of his rosewood Emmons which Brad Sarno now owns-I gave a copy of that picture to Brad-I'd like to see if Brad could post that one on the Forum

David Decker · Post by **David Decker** » 5 Nov 2003 4:04 pm

Where is Ned now? When I was young my dad used to take me to Pa. to watch Ned play. He was the Staff Steel player for a weeky show in Beaver Falls Pa. ( I think it was in Beaver Falls) As I remember Ned played D9th and D6 tunings back then.

Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 5 Nov 2003 4:51 pm

He's pickin' w/ Curly & Pete.

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Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 5 Nov 2003 8:23 pm

On that "gold plated Emmons P/P" in the sky-Right Smiley?

Al Michalczak · Post by **Al Michalczak** » 5 Nov 2003 8:50 pm

A group I was with in the late 60's opened for Jerry Lee at the "Golden Stallion" in San Antonio. His steel player used thumb, second and third fingers. He said it was from years as a guitar player. He was the only one I've ever seen play that way. Was that Ned?

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Nicholas Dedring · Post by **Nicholas Dedring** » 5 Nov 2003 8:59 pm

Sorry, meant to add the word "album" after the word "different." Pete drake was the steeler listed for JLL's "Killer country" album. So Milwaukee is Lloyd Green?

The two albums are "Another Time Another Place" and "She Even Woke Me Up To Say Goodbye", with some tracks from "She Still comes Around (to Love What's Left of Me" Now on Raven label out of Australia... originally Mercury Smash.

Steve Hinson · Post by **Steve Hinson** » 5 Nov 2003 9:12 pm

Lloyd is on"Milwaukee","She Still Comes Around",probably"Another Place,Another Time"...this box I have is just an overview of Jerry Lee's career-the Bear Family sets have EVERY one of his Smash records...and pretty extensive liner notes(session info,etc.)Pete and Ned did a lot of Jerry Lee records too...remember,it wasn't unusual for an artist to put out a couple of albums a year back then...

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 5 Nov 2003 9:42 pm

I saw JLL in Vegas in 1971, with Charlie Owens (from Memphis) on PSG.

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Ron Whitfield · Post by **Ron Whitfield** » 6 Nov 2003 6:44 pm

The Killer tore it up on Oahu last week, but with no steel, just them boots on the ivorys.

Steve Hinson · Post by **Steve Hinson** » 6 Nov 2003 8:16 pm

Ron-was James Burton playing guitar with the Killer?

Bobby Boggs · Post by **Bobby Boggs** » 6 Nov 2003 9:27 pm

Al:
Ned used his thumb, second and third fingers.----------------------bb

Stephen LeBlanc · Post by **Stephen LeBlanc** » 9 Nov 2003 4:44 pm

My dad played with Jerry Lee Lewis for a little while until JLL pulled a gun on him. I have no idea if he was on any records, probably not, it's possible he was on a single, I dunno...if anyone does I'd be curious to know.

Just FYI

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Skip Cole · Post by **Skip Cole** » 11 Nov 2003 8:42 pm

I believe Robby Turner worked with JLL some, and as the previous post stated, Charlie Owen did a good while ago.

As for Ned Davis, i hate to report that he passed away a few years back, in the Memphis Tn area.

Stephen, I have a picture or 2 of Leo picking at a steel jam session back in the early '80's in Memphis, along with Robby Turner, Charlie Owen, and some others i can't recall. I believe he was accompanied by one of his sons on keys, could that have been you?

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Stephen LeBlanc · Post by **Stephen LeBlanc** » 12 Nov 2003 10:16 am

I believe he was accompanied by one of his sons on keys, could that have been you?

Could have been me...if you have access to a scanner, PLEASE scan any picture you have for me?

Considering how many gigs my Dad played in his lifetime I don't have all that many pictures, if anyone has any pics of Leo playing, please email a copy to me if possible. Thanks.

Brad Sarno · Post by **Brad Sarno** » 12 Nov 2003 9:25 pm

Yea, we still call Ned's old guitar "The Tank". It's a '69 Rosewood D-10 push/pull, Cass restoration. Heavy as hell. Ask Larry! Truly a great example of the push/pull. It's in great shape and sounds fantastic. Long long sustain. Real heavy. I even removed the '70s plastic logo and returned it to its original silver sticker logo. Heavy as hell, did I mention that? The Tank.

Brad Sarno

Bob Ruggeri · Post by **Bob Ruggeri** » 19 Nov 2003 10:49 am

On a lot of the Mercury records it was Kenny Lovelace who also played fiddle for the Killer as well.

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 19 Nov 2003 12:11 pm

Ned doubled on fiddle during Eddie Rabbitt's show too!