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Wayne Franco
From: silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2003 9:59 am
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Do you feel the same way as I do. Is like "one step forward and two steps back. Sunday at a more country oriented jam I felt I could't play a wrong note. Tuesday at practice I had 2 left hands, couldn't seem to play a clean phrase. Sometimes this instrument just kicks my ass! I know anyone out there that is serious about playing has these ups and down. Learning a new neck (C6) and new music at the same time (Jazz,Swing,etc)is a humbling task at times. Have you ever felt like you're literally taking your music apart and putting it back together again?...I just can't think of an easier way. |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From: Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 11 Jun 2003 10:32 am
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What you are describing requires a few shots of cask strength MaCallan. That will cure your "ups and downs," you will be up all the time! So, who was at the jam, anyone I might know? Geez, its only been 23 years since I departed the Pacific Northwest. I know, the town isn't the same since I left!
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Larry Bell
From: Englewood, Florida
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Bill Myrick
From: Pea Ridge, Ar. (deceased)
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Posted 11 Jun 2003 4:34 pm
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To me, this instrament reflects a persons feelings at the time, more than any other I know of. I know my emotions always seemed to show through no matter where or what the gig was. Sometimes even "Jack" didn't help much ! -  |
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Bobby Boggs
From: Upstate SC.
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Posted 11 Jun 2003 9:59 pm
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Good point Bill.If I'm nervous or worried about somthing my playing is pretty much fluff.But some of the best playing I've done is when I'm really angry.I'm known as a pretty aggressive player anyway.But when I'm angry I'll try anything because I have no fear.I also play harder and come closer to nailing it to the wall so to speak.This is not just my imagination I've heard the tapes.In fact I never realized this till I heard the tapes.Lucky for me.The club owner I work for is a fool,and his son in law.The wanna be sound man is an idiot.So I stay mad most of the time. ......bb |
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Wayne Franco
From: silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 12 Jun 2003 5:18 am
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I think that is good feedback you guys. All of those things do affect my playing. I am going to try and limit how much I am learning at a time. My problem has been learning basic music theory...raw scales, figuring out myself where I think the best places to play them are THEN using this new knowledge in a song context. Its a lot of work to be sure. Many of the jazz players don't learn a specific solo after playing the head. That is certainly different from the slick worked out arrangements most steel players aspire to. Someone in a recent post said BE worked backstage on just chimes for several hours after playing a set. |
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John Lacey
From: Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 12 Jun 2003 7:23 am
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It's just going to take some time to integrate all the learning components that you are working on and then letting them go and just play. It's a left brain/right brain thing that takes a few years of live playing to assimulate. I remember having to practice for 1/2 an hr. before the 1st. set just to keep up with the other guys. Now there's no real warm-up needed. |
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Bob Carlson
From: Surprise AZ.
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Posted 12 Jun 2003 7:37 am
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At my age...if my hands are cold it sure makes a differance.
Bob |
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Wayne Franco
From: silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 12 Jun 2003 9:23 am
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I feel your pain Bob! I'm not getting any younger myself. |
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Rick Collins
From: Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 12 Jun 2003 12:27 pm
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Sometimes this instrument just kicks my ass! |
Well W. Franco, maybe that's because sometimes you need a good a$$ kicking___just kidding W.
Seriously, all of these are good replies. Relate this to shooting basketball goals. Sometimes you're red hot, and some days you couldn't hit the side of a barn.
Larry Bell has the right idea of "breaking it into chunks". The more you can split your practice into detail, the better and faster you will learn. It's like putting together a jigsaw puzzle;___each little piece must fit with other pieces.
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Wayne Franco
From: silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 13 Jun 2003 11:49 am
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That really is good advice. I will try working on smaller pieces of the song. I'm thinking I may have to write or record what I've already worked out because I tend to get a good idea then forget it. |
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