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George Manno
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Posted 9 Jun 2005 1:32 pm |
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I was at a yard sale today and bought a Gibson BR6 for $35.00. I got it home and put a new set of strings on it. It is as quiet as can be electronicly, but I don't care for the sound. It a little sawed off in the tone department. Any suggestions
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Ron Victoria
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New Jersey, USA
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2005 1:47 pm
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Did you read Jon's topic/thread concerning his Nat. Dynamic?
Just might be a simple fix like/similar to that.
Good luck! |
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 9 Jun 2005 6:18 pm
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Ask for your money back?  [This message was edited by HowardR on 09 June 2005 at 07:19 PM.] |
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oj hicks
From:
Springville, AL
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Posted 9 Jun 2005 6:47 pm
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You might drop a line to Rick Aiello and see if the pickups can be remagged. If anyone can do it...Rick can. Guy's a genius.
oj hicks |
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 12:27 am
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i had a BR6 for years
it sang & howled
a great lil steel imo
i paid 50 $ fer mine in 69 |
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George Manno
From:
chicago
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 3:45 am
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This guitar is very clean. It sat in the original owner's hall closet for the last 50+ years. Last night, I took it to a guitar tech I know here in town. He unscrewed the controls and found that the capacitor had a tiny crack that ran the entire length. It wasn't all the way through, but as soon as he soldered up a new cap, the tone pot came alive, and the dynamics on the guitar began to let itself be known. Wow!
I had it set up with my Jerry Byrd C6 strings 036, 030, 024P, 016,016,016. It sounded just fine. Then, I changed strings again to an Open E Maj. Wow, Double wow, I mean DOUBLE DOG WOW! I had it growling like David Gilmour. So for $60 and a couple of sets of strings, I'm much happier today than I was yesterday. Later on this morning I'm going back to find out if he still has the amp, and I'm puting a c-note in an envelope to surprise him.
George[This message was edited by George Manno on 10 June 2005 at 08:37 AM.] |
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George Manno
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chicago
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 4:08 am
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I'm much happier today than I was yesterday.
George[This message was edited by George Manno on 10 June 2005 at 08:37 AM.] |
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Steinar Gregertsen
From:
Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 4:28 am
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| I much happier today than I was yesterday. |
Steinar
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 4:30 am
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| I'm puting a c-note in an envelope to surprise him |
That's old school ethics. It seems that this is becoming rarer and rarer these days.
George, you're a good Manno..... 
Hey Crowbear,,why don't you kick in a few francs... |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 5:54 am
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My first electric lap guitar was a BR-6. It was a nice guitar. However, I wouldn't pay much for a 50 year old amp unless you just want it for nostalgia. Those old Gibson amps had a muddy sound, at least mine did.
Erv |
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George Manno
From:
chicago
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 6:08 am
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Howard
I think it is the right thing to do. The right thing is always the easiest thing to do.
I'm just passing the blessings on.
George |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 6:28 am
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Premod, i'm plumb outta Francs !
all i got's is €uros
you done good George !
how much you want me to send ?
$mackers & kharma : what a combo
[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 10 June 2005 at 07:29 AM.] |
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Keith Cordell
From:
San Diego
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 9:07 am
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Go get that amp, I think they are wonderful. The old small low wattage amps give you that Sol Hoopii sound and have lovely overdrive tones. They are supposed to be dark.
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MSA Classic 12, Peavey Delta Blues, Proco Rat, Robert Randolph - Shubb bars
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George Manno
From:
chicago
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 11:26 am
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The amp is a Gibson Super 400 model with the stairstep control panel. Whoa!!!!!!
Needs a good cleaning and a shot of deoxit.
George |
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Dan Sawyer
From:
Studio City, California, USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2005 4:54 pm
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| You scored again! |
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George Manno
From:
chicago
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Posted 11 Jun 2005 4:21 am
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The amp works,but no sound comes out of the speaker. The pilot light is on. The tubes are glowing, but NOTHING.
I checked the leads going to the speaker, they are conected.
HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Any ideas?
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Ron Simpson
From:
Illinois, USA
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Paul Arntson
From:
Washington, USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2005 10:40 pm
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One thing the amp debug page is missing on the "lights are on but the sound is not" page is that some of those old amps had a "field coil" loudspeaker. Permanent magnets were too expensive, so on the old ones they used an electromagnet type coil to magnetize the speaker field. That coil is identified as being a large coil on the back of the loudspeaker where you would expect a magnet assembly (with two power wires comign out of it.)
Often those leads would break or the coil would open. Easy to check by unsoldering and checking with an ohmmeter. Should show I think less than 500 -1000 ohms.
Let us know. Sounds like a beautiful amp!
Good score and good karma. |
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Blake Hawkins
From:
Florida
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Posted 12 Jun 2005 6:34 am
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George,
The GA-400 amp his two chassis. One for the power supply and power amps, the other for the pre amp.
Make sure both of the connections between the two units are secure and that none of the wires are pulled out.
You might also want to reseat the connectors.
Of course, you do this with the amp unplugged from the wall socket.
The GA-400 has something you don't see much in guitar amps and that is a regulated power supply. The 6V6GT is the regulator tube.
If anything is wrong with that, the amp will light up but not work.
Anything to be done under the chassis is for
a technician only. This amp has 570 volts on the 6550 plates and also on the 6V6GT.
So it is dangerous under there.
Another thing to check is to be sure that the speaker is plugged into the correct jack.
J1 has a switch on it which shorts out the output. You must use that for a single speaker otherwise the amp will light up but not work.
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George Manno
From:
chicago
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Posted 12 Jun 2005 8:56 am
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It was the connection between the two units. I reseated the plug and the amp is up and running. It is a lot louder than I expected.
Thanks for all the suggestions
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Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Jun 2005 6:53 pm
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| If that amp has 6550s, it will sure have plenty of power!! |
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George Manno
From:
chicago
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Posted 14 Jun 2005 4:14 am
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6550 give this amp the power of Thor's Hammer. Keep in mind it is 3 channels so there is enough power to make everyone happy.
George[This message was edited by George Manno on 14 June 2005 at 05:15 AM.] |
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