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Scott Jackson · Post by **Scott Jackson** » 24 Mar 2003 9:20 pm

Hello.
Just a note to say I'm an old pickerjust now learning the steel. Also, I'm glad to be part of this great group of musicians. Any suggestions for a guitar/bass/dobro player breaking into the the WIDE WORLD of the steel guitar would be very greatly appreciated. Going to order a Newman starter course. Any preferences/suggestions? Again, Thanks for the acceptance, Bob. And am looking forward to being associated with you fine people.
Scott

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Carter Starter
Peavey 212 Chorus
Crate Vintage 50
Regal Dobro
Dad's old Mongrel Tele
G+L L1000 Bass
Peavey Bass Rig
Assorted effects,etc.
Suzuki Keyboard

"Canyon River Band"

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 25 Mar 2003 12:08 am

Hi Scott Bienvenue au PSG Forum.
I got the 30 intros with cassette, it seemed a good place to start, and a few songs I liked.

I also have been lent by my PSG player/ teacher; Doug Beaumier's 100 hot licks for E9, and C6 method #2 and some of Buddy E.'s courses. All great places to start.

On the forum look up Ed Packard's postings. He has givin as complete an analysis as I could imagine for how chords work on PSG.
For both E9 and C6. This is as important a subject, IMHO, as anything having to do with licks.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 25 March 2003 at 12:09 AM.]

Bob Hayes · Post by **Bob Hayes** » 4 Apr 2003 7:42 am

Scott,
Practice,Practice,Practice....also get all of the stuff (CD's..Instructions..etc.) that formites are trying to let you have(at a nominal fee)...and pay attention and be part of the Forum, and all parts of the forum..Go out to all of the shows and jams that you can...there is nothing like seeing the real thing.. There are many shows/jams around the country ...many with the TOP PICKERS...who are eager to talk with you ,give you advice,and share thire products with you. Subscribe to the New ..Steel Guitar Magazine that Terry Wentt is publishing..and practice practice practice.....! I'm up to do re me already!
Grouchyvet

David Reeves · Post by **David Reeves** » 4 Apr 2003 8:23 am

If you're already playing a guitar, you probably won't have much trouble.
I got my 1st psg in feb 2003. An old worn out sho-bud maverick 3 pedals 3 levers. Only the LKL works the other two just flop. So I play with just 3 pedals.

After 6 weeks of piddleing, I played with my old band at Moose Lodge last Friday night. The people kept telling me how much they 'loved the steel' I didn't take any lead rides and played quietly behind the other musicians but had enough of the 'sound' that it did add a little to the music.

You have a nice guitar to start learning on and will be able to do a lot more, more easily than I can with my set up. But, if you have an ear for music, you can make it work.

Mr. Jeff has an excellent course, so does Joe Wright, and many many others out there. Trust your ear, and practice a lot. It is a very enjoyable addiction.
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Stump Reeves
P.S.
I am the worst musician in the world that ever got paid to play.

[This message was edited by David Reeves on 04 April 2003 at 08:26 AM.]

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 4 Apr 2003 8:41 am

...I had already played C6 professionally for about 20 years before I decided to learn E9, and it took about two years before I began to feel comfortable enough with it for professional work.

I say this not to discourage you, but just to say that you shouldn't rush things. It takes time, so if you move forward at a pace that you feel comfortable with and don't expect too much,too soon, then one day, unexpectably, you will find that you have done it! Good luck and enjoy the trip! www.genejones.com

C Dixon · Post by **C Dixon** » 4 Apr 2003 8:55 am

Two separate and time worn "cliche's" are appropriate here. One has already been stated;

"Practice! Practice! Practice".

And that is true.

When you practice, follow two of the greatest players (Jerry Byrd and Lloyd Green) when they say,

There are three ways to play a steel guitar,

"Melody! Melody! Melody!"

There is NO substitute for the above sets of advice. Failure to do either or both, will guarantee mediocrity or worse---a poor player.

May Jesus richly bless you in your quests,

carl

Scott Jackson · Post by **Scott Jackson** » 4 Apr 2003 5:09 pm

Thanks a million for all of the advice, guys. Gene, I hope you're right! Maybe someday it'll happen. Time will tell. Meanwhile I'll just keep practicing and cussin'!! Going to my first PSG Jam on Sunday, can't wait. One brief question. Should I buy the EXACT gauge of strings my steel came with? Mine came with the 5th and 6th .017 and .o22W, respectively. Jagwire Mediums are .018 and .022, and the lights are .017 and .020. Which should I use? Should I order the "custom" for those gauges? Does it matter? My gut feeling says "the heavier, the better". But, I'd rather listen to you guys, than my gut.

Bye, Scott

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Carter Starter
Peavey 212 Chorus
Crate Vintage 50
Regal Dobro
Dad's old Mongrel Tele
G+L L1000 Bass
Peavey Bass Rig
Assorted effects,etc.
Suzuki Keyboard

"Crooked River Band"

Scott Jackson · Post by **Scott Jackson** » 4 Apr 2003 5:14 pm

P.S.
Stump, you can only be second worse, next to me. Trust me, it's bad. It must be my ability to BS my way into jobs, can't be my talent or looks.
Scott

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Carter Starter
Peavey 212 Chorus
Crate Vintage 50
Regal Dobro
Dad's old Mongrel Tele
G+L L1000 Bass
Peavey Bass Rig
Assorted effects,etc.
Suzuki Keyboard

"Crooked River Band"

Scott Jackson · Post by **Scott Jackson** » 4 Apr 2003 5:16 pm

If the folks at Carter heard me, they'd rename my steel to the "Carter Stopper"
Scott

Ricky0ne1 · Post by **Ricky0ne1** » 4 Apr 2003 11:01 pm

he he he...

dat funny Scott.

I play a Nullen.. 'er Mullen

Love it.
Welcome Aboard..

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Rick Summers

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 4 Apr 2003 11:45 pm

Hi Scott and Welcome to this Great Fo'rum

Old dogs can learn New Tricks !
All the best to ya'

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Steel what?

Chuck McGill · Post by **Chuck McGill** » 5 Apr 2003 4:21 am

Scott. Welcome to the forum. It was nice meeting and talking to you on the phone Friday. If I can help with any gear please let me know.
Thanks[This message was edited by Chuck McGill on 06 April 2003 at 09:47 AM.]

Reggie Duncan · Post by **Reggie Duncan** » 5 Apr 2003 6:43 am

Stump, what a nice website. I trust your health is improving.

Ann Fabian · Post by **Ann Fabian** » 5 Apr 2003 8:29 am

Hi Scott - Welcome! We are glad to see you having fun with your Carter-Starter and here on the forum ...

As for string gauges on your Carter-Starter, we (as the manufacturer) do recommend staying with the gauges listed in your Carter-Starter Owner's Manual, especially make sure that the 6th string is wound. Heavier gauges would not be recommended by us.

You can buy Jagwire's CARTER-STARTER string SET here if you wish from b0b:

<CENTER>See the listing for
CARTER-STARTER E9th by Jagwire</CENTER>

We also sell accessories for your Carter-Starter here if you wish.

Have fun at the Jam tomorrow and Keep on steelin'

Ann Fabian

Carter Steel Guitars
972-475-2324 [url=http://www.CarterStarter.com]www.CarterStarter.com[/url]

[This message was edited by Ann Fabian on 05 April 2003 at 08:32 AM.]

David Reeves · Post by **David Reeves** » 5 Apr 2003 9:01 am

Thanx Reggie

I have taken most of it down since my injury, I used to build websites for Veteran Organizations.
Now, however, I am considering devoting a lot of it STEEL GUITAR! and promote this outstanding forum.
A lot of Newbies, like Scott and myself, need all the website stuff we can find!
I really like the way b0b has this forum set up with convenient links to cd's, instructional stuff, strings, etc. for all to enjoy, even the 'newbies'!

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Stump Reeves

Scott Jackson · Post by **Scott Jackson** » 5 Apr 2003 8:24 pm

We'll see, CrowBear........ This old dog is pretty stuborn, and not too bright.
Thanks Chuck and I'll be calling you soon, I'm sure......Still need an amp.
Thanks a million for the advice, Ann. Gonna order tomorrow from Bob. And Stump, you're right. We'll take all the help we can get.
Well, it's late. Put in my usual 12 hrs. today, and I'm whipped. And the PSG Jam is tomorrow!!!!!!!!!! wooooooooohooooooooo.
You'd think that after 25 yrs. of picking this stuff wouldn't excite me so. I feel like a kid with a new toy.
Thanks again guys ( and gal),
take care
Scott

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Carter Starter
Peavey 212 Chorus
Crate Vintage 50
Regal Dobro
Dad's old Mongrel Tele
G+L L1000 Bass
Peavey Bass Rig
Assorted effects,etc.
Suzuki Keyboard

"Crooked River Band"

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 6 Apr 2003 1:39 am

Scott, i like you joined up here to brighten things up
Let it Shine it"s everlovin' Light on us

Scott Jackson · Post by **Scott Jackson** » 6 Apr 2003 4:28 am

Thanks CrowBear. But, I think it was pretty bright here before I joined!

Take Care, Scott

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Carter Starter
Peavey 212 Chorus
Crate Vintage 50
Regal Dobro
Dad's old Mongrel Tele
G+L L1000 Bass
Peavey Bass Rig
Assorted effects,etc.
Suzuki Keyboard

"Crooked River Band"

Scott Jackson · Post by **Scott Jackson** » 21 Apr 2003 6:38 pm

Crow Bear
Where are you. Haven't heard from you for awhile???????????
Scott

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 22 Apr 2003 12:28 am

i'm here

i sent ya'an email
hope all is well for ya !
how have your steelin been comin' along ?
yeah Peep on Kickin' !

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Steel what?

Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 22 Apr 2003 5:40 am

Hello Scott
From one newbie to another, Welcome.
I am a long time picker of guitars, bass, dobro, and non-pedal electric steel.

Best thing I ever did was find a great teacher. Yea, I knew enough music theory, chord progressions, etc.

Turns out I had the fundamentals all wrong. Right hand position, how to hold the bar, where to sit, and the chord positions.

Jeff Newman's stuff is great, I practice with his tracks every day... But find a one on one teacher.

Good luck
Ron

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Stringmaster T8, Benoit 8, National Tricone