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Topic: ? for Buddy Emmons, sound on "Sound of a Heartache" |
emil noothout
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Amsterdam, Netherlands
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Posted 12 Dec 2002 9:07 am |
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Hello Buddy, do you remember which steel and amplifier (and possible effects) you used on Johnny Bush' "Sound of a Heartache"? I love the sound you had in that period.
Emil Noothout. |
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Chris Forbes
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Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2002 12:22 pm
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| Man, what a great album that was!! Buddy and Jimmy Day just oozed taste on that album. I have the strong opinion that it's one of the 25 best country albums ever recorded. |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2002 2:00 pm
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Buddy cut on (Title track) "Sound of a Heartache" and "A Moment isn't very Long"......and Jimmy Day cut on all the rest.
Jimmy Day used his ShoBud Blue Darlin' Permenant....that Kevin Owens owns now....and Buddy used .......??
Ricky |
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
Over there
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Posted 12 Dec 2002 4:28 pm
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Ricky, I thought YOUR guitar was named "the Blue Darlin'?" I'm still new at this Steel stuff, is this a type of setup, or what?
I know B.B. King's got "Lucille," then Albert King had "Lucy,"is this the same thing? |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2002 12:49 am
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No Stephen; mine is the Fulawka Blue Darlin.
Jimmy Day's guitars were "The Blue Darlin".....Mine was built for me by Ed Fulawka as a tribute in Memory of Jimmy Day....mine by all means is NOT "The Blue Darlin".
Since this is Johnny Bush's very first recording....and was in 1967.....I would say(and only guessing)that Buddy Emmons cut those two tracks on the "Blade"...> WEll Buddy> did you???...it sure sounds like it.
Ricky |
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Buddy Emmons
From:
Hermitage, TN USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 13 Dec 2002 5:24 am
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| I was playing an Emmons push/pull but I'm thinking I didn't get the Blade until 1968. My guess for the amp would be either the original Peavey Session 400 or a Standel. I would lean more toward the Peavey because I moved to California in 1968 and used it on the Judy Collins sessions. |
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Chris Forbes
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Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2002 6:32 am
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| I still haven't seen Ricky's new "Blue Darlin'", every time I see him the rat is playing one of my Sho-Bud's. What I find totally unfair is that they don't sound that good when I play them. I'm thinking of starting a "I hate Ricky Davis" club, anyone in? Ricky, you get free membership, everybody else has to put in $10. |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2002 12:31 pm
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Sorry Buddy; I thought the "Blade" was a '66.....ha....shows how much I know...I need to read up on your history a little more.
Jim Loessberg told me what guitar you played...but I forgot....and he doesn't check on here really that much anymore...I'll ask him......but it certainly sounds like a "Bolt On"...
Anyway.......super sound.....and it's amazing how simular yours and Jimmy's sound were on that project....and I know I keep going on and on about it....but it's because it's my favorite ALL TIMEalbum in the History of EVER!!!
Chris.....count me in on that club......I hate me too......  
...and you have some mighty fine sounding and playing ShoBuds and can never thank you enough for the use of them....on a few occassions......YOU'DA MaN.
Ricky |
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Dan Tyack
From:
Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2002 7:20 pm
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Hey Buddy, I thought the Session 400 didn't come out until '74 or so (I'm thinking this because I bought the very first one sold on the West Coast, and I didn't start playing steel until '74.......
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Chris Forbes
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Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2002 11:35 am
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| "The Blade" is one of Buddy Emmons' guitars. It's an old push-pull that is argued to have the best tone ever (I'd vote differently, but that's just my little opinion!!). I'm not sure exactly which cuts it was used on, I'm sure there are others who will hop in with more info than I possess. |
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Chris Forbes
From:
Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2002 11:37 am
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| And Ricky, you d'man (not me!!), it was a sheer pleasure to hear my guitars sound that dang good. You're more than welcome to borrow them anytime you're around here for a gig or session, just get a hold of me. |
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Ernie Renn
From:
Brainerd, Minnesota USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2002 12:09 am
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Buddy has said that the "Touch My Heart" guitar did sound better.
The '68, (Cass says '67, because of serial number,) was named "The Blade" because it cut thru so well on recordings. It is also the guitar that Buddy used on the black album.
Before the question gets asked: The Blade serial number is "1136 D".
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My best,
Ernie
The Official Buddy Emmons Website
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Buddy Emmons
From:
Hermitage, TN USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 17 Dec 2002 5:11 am
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Dan,
Thanks for the info on the Peavey release. That clarifies a lot of amp related questions I had for that six year period and means the amp I used on Sound Of A Heartache and California session work was the Standel.
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Buddy Emmons
From:
Hermitage, TN USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 17 Dec 2002 5:45 am
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| The black Touch My Heart guitar is my all time favorite push/pull and the one I sold to Dicky Overby that ended up as a wagon. It was the kind of guitar that made any amp sound good. My Standel was an amp that made any guitar sound good, so together, they were a killer combination for the E9th tuning. The Bigsby/Standel combo was my favorite for a mellow tone and sounded great on both E9th and C6th. |
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Paul Warnik
From:
Illinois,USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2002 6:03 am
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Bigsby/Standel Blade/Cassified  |
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Jim Loessberg
From:
Austin, Texas U.S.A
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Posted 18 Dec 2002 2:11 am
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I don't swear to any of this but if memory serves, Bush's first Nashville session was only two sides, "Sound of a Heartache" and "A Moment Isn't Very Long". They were released on the New Star label.
The other tunes were cut at a later date using the same personnel except Jimmy Day was on steel. All of these tunes and the two that Buddy Emmons played on were
released on the Stop album "Sound of a Heartache" (SLP 10002).
The first release from this album was "You Ought To Hear Me Cry", released in March 1967. This sounds like the Buddy Emmons session could easily have been in late 1966, although I don't know and I would have to ask John to be sure.
The "Touch My Heart" session was August 11, 1966, just a few months earlier. Could
"Sound of a Heartache" have been cut on the "wagon" too?
Best wishes,
Jim
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Buddy Emmons
From:
Hermitage, TN USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Dec 2002 1:56 pm
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Jim,
If those are the dates, you may be right. Thanks to you and a few others, I'm learning more about myself every day. |
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Posted 18 Dec 2002 1:58 pm
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Buddy,
Thanks for the roll in the floor.
hope it was as good for you as it was for me
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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2002 1:11 am
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Thanks Jim for the even more info and history on this......
Jim Loessberg is the one that I got my info from in the first place.....and when he made me guess who the guitar player was on those sessions...and I said:"__? he said Nope...and was it____? nope and then after I named all the ones that it sounded like their style...he said: "someone you'd never think of playing that way".....then he said "Jerry Reed"....and of course my mouth dropped......Just sweet soulful guitar playing......so tasty...and another reason why it's my favorite classic country record.
Oh and you just do not hear singers sing a song anymore....like Johnny did/does. He sings with all his might and passion and projects every ounce of emotion in every phrase of every song.......they just DO NOT sing like that anymore......
Ricky
[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 19 December 2002 at 01:15 AM.] |
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Mike Sweeney
From:
Nashville,TN,USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2002 1:19 am
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Here's another piece to the puzzle.
Jimmy Day sang two songs on the same session that "Sound of a Heartache" was cut on. And he had a broken leg. This was told to me by Johnny Bush himself.
Mike Sweeney |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Ray Jenkins
From:
Gold Canyon Az. U.S.A.
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Posted 19 Dec 2002 7:36 am
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Who paid for the session that Johnny and Jimmy sang on?
The envelope, please...
Paul English?
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Steeling is still legal in Arizona
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