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Stephen Winters
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Posted 20 Nov 2002 1:57 pm |
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Does anyone know how the great Norm Hamlet's steel is set up? I saw him on tv the other night playing some great C6 sounding licks, but it looked like he was playing on the front neck. He is one of the greats.
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Stephen Winters
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Kevin Hatton
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Posted 20 Nov 2002 7:53 pm
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| I saw that. He was emulating C6th on E 9th and I never heard it done better. I was wondering about that also. |
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Terry Wendt
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Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2002 10:50 pm
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I missed it!!!!  Did you tape it Kevin? |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 21 Nov 2002 3:09 am
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| I could be wrong, but he could have his C6 neck on top. I do know he uses a Day setup on E9, plus he has an interesting pedal that he came up with to emulate some of the R. Mooney licks on early Hag recordings. Kevin Ryan, do you remember what Norm said he had on that pedal? [This message was edited by Rick Schmidt on 21 November 2002 at 03:13 AM.] |
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Chris Forbes
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Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2002 3:55 am
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| If he has a C6 neck on top, it's a steel I've never seen him play before. Every steel I've seen him play is set up like 99.9% of the steels out there. |
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scott murray
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 22 Nov 2002 8:17 am
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Like Big E and many others, Norm's a master at getting the E9 to sound like C6. I'm certain that his setup has the E9 in the front.
He cut a version of "Almost to Tulsa" on one of the Strangers albums, and I'm thinking he may have done that on E9 as well. |
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Ron Page
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Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2002 10:13 am
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I don't know off the top of my head. It's only changed once since Winnie's book. He has moved 1 of those knee levers to a 4th pedal. Later I'll check his copedant in my book, which Norm marked up a couple years ago.
He doesn't have the C-neck on top. That's E9th. I swore he played "Sin City Blues" on the C-neck but he told me it's E9th and he was going for a "6th-like" sound. I wonder if perhaps he did the same thing on Ida Red -- on Live at Billy Bob's.
Copying all my Haggard records and tapes to CD, I'm getting to revisit many great album cuts that I don't hear often.
Let's make sure to get Norm nominated for the HoF. We can worry about Pete Rose later. 
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[This message was edited by Ron Page on 22 November 2002 at 10:13 AM.] |
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Stephen Winters
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Scobey, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2002 11:11 am
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"Sin City Blues" is the song I saw him play on tv, on the front neck. He is a master of the instrument.
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Stephen Winters
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Ron Page
From:
Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2002 9:06 am
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Sorry it took so long. I'v been a little under the weather...
According to Winnie's book and Norm's update handwritten in, Norm does use a Day pedal setup. A 4th pedal, which used to be a knee, lowers 3rd to G and raises 6th to A. Knees (5): Standard 1/2-note raise and lower on E's, and standard lowers on 2nd string; lowers B's to Bb;raise 1st to G and lower 6th to F#.
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Joe Casey
From:
Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 26 Nov 2002 11:13 am
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Certainly Norm belongs in the Hall so I would show up again next year to see him and Reece go in together.
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Dave Birkett
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Oxnard, CA, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2002 3:26 pm
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| A 4th pedal, which used to be a knee, lowers 3rd to G and raises 6th to A |
That'll do it right there. If he put a split on the lever that lowers the 6th to F#, he wouldn't need that pedal. When were splits first used? |
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norm hamlet
From:
bakersfield ca. usa
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Posted 26 Nov 2002 5:18 pm
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Ron, thanks for answering the questions about me. I was out of town and just now got home. I use the Jimmy Day setup and also E9th on the top neck and the C6th on the bottom. I did play Sin City Blues on E9th. I get a few licks that sound like C6th by using three finger picks and a thumb pick so I can grab four strings together. Also, I recorded Almost To Tulsa on the C6th tuning. The fourth pedal lowers the third string from G# to G and raises the 6th string from G# to A. By using my third pedal which raises the fifth and tenth strings from B to C# along with the fourth pedal, gives me a 7th on strings three through six. You can get the 7th by raising the first string 1/2 tone from F# to a G but there are some licks that just don't have the same sound. This way you can rake four strings backward starting with the third to the sixth with pedals three and four. This is the setup I used to play some Mooney licks. It is hard to describe how this would sound, you would almost have to hear me play it to hear how it sounds.
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Chris Forbes
From:
Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2002 2:48 am
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| I've always respected and enjoyed your playing Mr. Hamlet, thank you. |
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Dave Van Allen
From:
Souderton, PA , US , Earth
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Posted 27 Nov 2002 5:43 am
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I love this forum... ask a question and get answered straight from the maestro himself...
thank you Mr Hamlet.
do you still own any ZB Customs? |
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Stephen Winters
From:
Scobey, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2002 5:55 am
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Thanks Mr. Hamlet for the response. This forum is a great place.
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Stephen Winters
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norm hamlet
From:
bakersfield ca. usa
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Posted 27 Nov 2002 8:20 pm
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Dave, Yes I have a ZB double eleven string with 9 pedals and five knees red cherry color and real pretty birdseye maple.
It was built just before Tom Brumley bought the company.
I also have my lime green Rus-ler eleven and ten string with 9 pedals and five knees.
They are still great sounding guitars.
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 27 Nov 2002 11:31 pm
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| Norm, again thanks for coming on and posting. I swore you were on the C6th neck but knew you were on E9th on Sin City. I love your tone and approach to steel. Very sensitive touch and phrasing. Bravo. We loved it. Terry, sorry, I didn't tape it. Hopefully it'll be re-broadcast on CMT. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 27 November 2002 at 11:33 PM.] |
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Tiny Olson
From:
Mohawk River Valley, Upstate NY
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Posted 28 Nov 2002 6:50 pm
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I met Norm Hamlet several times while I was with Gene Watson and we did shows together with Merle and Norm.
He was always a cool and great guy to me, besides being a great player. His posting of reply on this forum just proves that I guess. And that double eleven ZB is sure cool too.
Best wishes to you Norm and I admire your long and great career with "The Hag."
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Tommy Detamore
From:
Floresville, Texas
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Posted 29 Nov 2002 6:23 am
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I had the pleasure of spending some time with Norm a few months ago. He is a true gentleman-incredibly modest, and a legendary player in my book. Thanks Norm! Hey, when are you gonna write that book we talked about?
Tiny, we have traveled the same paths, eh? |
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Tiny Olson
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Mohawk River Valley, Upstate NY
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Posted 29 Nov 2002 9:30 am
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Yes Tommy, we sure have. But I don't know if you had to drive the buses as much as I did... especially in reverse !!!
I wish Norm would write a book. Many of my buddies are always telling me I should do so, what with all the "interesting" road and music stories. But a guy like Norm, with such an unbelievably long and great career, out there with the same guy for so many years should really do so. I'll buy one if you write it, Norm.
Sorry I missed you in "The Big Apple" Tommy.
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RON PRESTON
From:
Dodson, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2002 10:12 am
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Wow, Norm,
I remember seeing a photo of you quite a while back playing that Rustler. I have been to quite a few Steel Guitar shows through the years, but, I have never seen a Rustler yet. I've always wanted to sit behind one and try one out. Thanks for the great playing through the years with "The Hag"
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2002 12:26 pm
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| Hi Norm...just wanted to say it was great seeing you again at that show we opened up for you last month in San Diego! Don't know how I coulda thought you had the C6 on top. You sounded great at that show! |
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Pat Goodbla
From:
Longview, Washington
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Posted 30 Nov 2002 9:43 am
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It was a real treat last year in Sacramento when Norm was inducted into the POWS Hall of Fame. Had a green guitar that day.
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Joerg Hennig
From:
Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 30 Nov 2002 12:04 pm
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I have yet to listen more to Norm Hamlet. Can anybody recommend some particular records that have outstanding examples of his style?
Also, I think his pedal setup and choice in guitars are ultra cool.
Regards, Joe H. |
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Chris Forbes
From:
Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2002 12:11 pm
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| Merle Haggard's "Live at Billy Bob's" is a good place to start |
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