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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 10 May 2005 5:47 am |
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| Musta been an Elvis festival. I watched Jailhouse Rock, the only decent one of the bunch, with what appeared to be real session players. triple scale, I'm sure. |
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Gene Jones
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Posted 10 May 2005 9:23 am
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I didn't like Elvis in his "young" years, because he ended my occupation of playing a steel guitar, but just when he was maturing and doing stuff that I really liked, he killed himself.
.....but I am really offended by the above post that implied that Elvis denied "kissing" a polynesion girl because of prejudice. This "race" card has been overused with OJ and should end!
How long will those advocates of past events be happy with merging them with current events?
www.genejones.com
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Gerald Ross
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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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David L. Donald
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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 10 May 2005 9:53 am
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Gene I went back and re-read that.
I don't see that what is being said implys racism on Elvis's part.
I read it to mean that "Somebody in the movie production chain",
thought it might be too touchy and nixed it.
That sounds like a Studio hack or Col Tom...
but not Elvis himself...certainly not.
I do still think at that time in american movie history,
that they were still too paranoid in mainstream teenage market
film productions, and others,
to cross percieved racial barriors very much.
So too risque maybe, but Elvis WAS risque, he built his early career on that..
But a SAFE risqueonward from the time after he was taken over by "manegement."
Col Tom re-molded Elvis into every mothers acceptable choice for her daughter.
Yes maybe a little wild... but not too wild to bring home to mom...
Yes a rebel, who still has wholesome values in the end.
Exciting for the kids, and nothing to scare the conservative parents too much.
Elivis's movie career was nothing if not safe.
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[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 10 May 2005 at 01:43 PM.] |
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HowardR
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Posted 10 May 2005 12:48 pm
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| throw a woman over his knee and give her the spanking she deserved |
Maybe it appears that way to the untrained eye, but I see 5 women in that Elvis photo that require spanking. And, no racism here, I'm an equal opportunity spanker!!  |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 10 May 2005 1:13 pm
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Gene Jones
From:
Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 10 May 2005 2:39 pm
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Gerald, I really didn't intend for my comment to sound so personal but I can see that it did and you have my apology.
.....my change of heart may be because I just remembered his portrayal of a native american in another Elvis movie. 
www.genejones.com [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 10 May 2005 at 03:40 PM.] |
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HowardR
From:
N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 10 May 2005 3:37 pm
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and who can forget the wonderful movie where Elvis portrayed a Rabbi....."Jailhouse Schlock".....he spanked a ham in that one....  |
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Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Craig Prior
From:
National City, California, USA
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Posted 10 May 2005 8:21 pm
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"Most of the dancehall or indoor scenes would be done in LA stages anyway.
They would have a 2nd unit shoot some stuff in Hawaii hit and run,
and then most would be done back home cheaper."
Yeah, and every now and then Diamondhead would look suspiciously like Griffith Park. |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 10 May 2005 10:42 pm
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| Gerald, Elvis actually played a part of a native American twice, in Flaming Star and in Stay Away Joe. He probably went through a largest selection of occupations than any movie star ever; including a doctor, a scuba diver, an outlaw, a tourist guide, a GI, a race car driver, a pilot, a boxer, a singer ( what the heck!!!??? ) and so on... |
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Mike D
From:
Phx, Az
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Posted 11 May 2005 6:34 am
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First televised interracial kiss: James T. Kirk and Lt. Uhura (sp?) on Star Trek! Of course 'evil aliens' forced them to...
King Creole was a pretty good 'serious' Elvis flick. I also like Spinout, as cinema it's the equivilent of a Monkees episode but I love Shelby Cobras. Here's the one I'm building.
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Half-assed bottleneck and lap slide player. Full-assed Builder of resonator instruments.
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 11 May 2005 10:11 am
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Howard Tate, please clue me in about this Strat playin' guy,
JIMMIE HENDICKS...? |
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 11 May 2005 2:40 pm
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Ok, so I have a serious thought here.
Hawaiian music was the rage for a long time, as was te steel guitar, first acoustic then electric.
Martin Denny, who recently passed away, was the creator of "Exotica". This was music that borrowed from many sounds and elements of music from various exotic cultures. I think this became the ambiguous "island sound" which could be substituted for Hawaiian, Polynesian, Carribean, and other south pacific islands.
Exotica had no steel guitar. Piano, vibes, and various percussion was the mainstay. Maybe this is why there were bongos and steel drums in the Elvis movie, and maybe that was the reason for this kind of perception. I think steel would have been a natural in Exotica. |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 11 May 2005 3:13 pm
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Anybody watching the current network miniseries Elvis docudrama? The 2nd episode is tonight. The Irish kid playing Elvis is really good at it, even down to the lip curl. I saw him in an interview, and he normally spoke with a fairly heavy Irish accent, but could slip into Elvisese at a moment's notice. Amazing.
As a graduate of Tupelo High School I can't help but watch all the Elvis stuff, even the really bad stuff like Blue Hawaii. I agree that Jail House Rock and King Creole were two of the better movies. I love the early stuff. After Elvis went into the army, Pat Boone, Fabian, etc. took over "rock'n'roll" and it was never the same, until the Stones and the Beatles gave it back to us. |
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Gerald Ross
From:
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 11 May 2005 5:52 pm
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Sorry Gerald, you're right. What was I thinking?  |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 11 May 2005 10:42 pm
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Howard.. you were thinking... HUH!
Musta been a lapse of deconcentration.
A Fabian a master of music if ever there was one.
Kookie, kookie lend me your comb.
Elvis's movie career was a hodgepodge of ideas meant to excit teenagers,
and not much more,
and a vehicle for middle of the road songs to get instant radio play.
Same theme, same general dramatic engine, and the songs and a different location, hipo new cute girl of the moment,
and a cast of B character actors and TV actors movin'up.
it certainly was more of a reflection of the innocence of the culture at the time ,
than they probably realized.
No need to be cool with the story or the scenario, Elvis is cool and can carry the load,
Not sure why there wasn't more Elvis in Peggy Sue Gets Married, it sure would have fit.
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c c johnson
From:
killeen,tx usa * R.I.P.
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Posted 12 May 2005 3:49 am
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Howard Tate
From:
Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 May 2005 5:44 am
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Hindrix, Hendicks, Smindrex, guess I could look up the correct spelling, if I cared. But I don't. Nyah!!
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Paul Honeycutt
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 12 May 2005 8:29 am
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I want to know how Elvis could be alone with the girl and start singing to her with an acoustic guitar and it sounded like an orchestra. Were we hearing the song of love in the young girl's heart?
I like Viva Las Vegas because Ann Margret was in it. Don't you think she looked a lot like Nichole Kidman? |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 12 May 2005 8:42 am
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Movie musicals as an article of faith
requier a total suspenion of disbelief.
But some times the producers push even that concept too far... |
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 12 May 2005 10:46 am
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| HT, that shoe leather must be delicious! |
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Kay Das
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 13 May 2005 1:11 pm
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Amused to read an article in Newsweek recently when the Hawaii Music Awards were included in the Grammy Awards. Hawaiian music was introduced to its readers by referring to Elvis and Blue Hawaii..
We have a long way to go...
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Denny Turner
From:
Oahu, Hawaii USA
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