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Topic: Trip To The Country/how did E play......? |
Steven Welborn
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Ojai,CA USA
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Posted 5 Jun 2002 8:43 am |
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| In his intro to "Invitation to the Blues",(R.Millers' TTTC or Country tunessmith CD),just before V7(A7) chord goes back to the I(D) end of the 2nd bar (4th beat), Buddy slides down to something dissonant. An A7 with a -5(Eb) maybe? [This message was edited by Steven Welborn on 05 June 2002 at 10:10 AM.] |
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From:
Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2002 12:20 pm
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Steven, I believe the steel on Invitation to the Blues was done by Jimmy Day, Not E. I wish I could help you on your question, but I haven't been able to duplicate it either.
 DUH (when all else fails, read the topic) I was thinking of the Ray Price version of invitation to the Blues. Sorry, I haven't heard Buddy play it. Jimmy Day did hit that dissonance on the Ray Price version, however.[This message was edited by Jim Bob Sedgwick on 08 June 2002 at 01:22 PM.] |
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Cal Sharp
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the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
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Posted 8 Jun 2002 2:39 pm
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I've heard Steve Hinson play it. Don't know if he's on here; ya might do a search for him.
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Steven Welborn
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Ojai,CA USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2002 3:09 pm
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An errie coincidence Jim, I just picked up a used vinyl of Ray Price's Greatest Hits and was reading your response while "invitation To The Blues" was playing. This one has fiddles playing the intro with steel background. Must be another version than the one your refering to. I cant tell who's playing steel. Probably the first version that R.P. did. The steel with pedals but still has that vintage sound. Id like to hear the J.Day version though and compare to the R. Miller/Emmon intro. I realize this is about as minute as minutiae gets, but its one of those "off" little things that make steel inventive and interresting..not always "perty". Somebody out there with the R. Miller version must have a take on it.
Maybe S. Hinson what that is. [This message was edited by Steven Welborn on 08 June 2002 at 04:13 PM.] |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2002 3:20 pm
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| A7 with a -5(Eb) maybe? |
Right. So the 3rd and 4th beats of the bar are:
4.____0~0L___________
5.___12~10___________
6.___12~10B__________
[This message was edited by Earnest Bovine on 08 June 2002 at 04:21 PM.] |
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John Steele (deceased)
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 8 Jun 2002 4:45 pm
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Thanks for asking that question Steven... I'd wondered that myself and could never find it.
Earnest, you're an Oracle. 
I love Buddy's playing on this album, but I've always wondered what the story was on the strange tone. It took me a while to remember where I'd heard it before; then it hit me - on the tracks he did with Gram Parsons.
-John |
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Steve Hinson
From:
Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2002 5:23 pm
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| Cal,I think Mike Cass showed me that lick many years ago...if he sees this maybe he will enlighten us.It's one of those things you have to know what you are talking about before you can explain(and I don't)...I can play it-I just can't explain it!Earnest is real close... [This message was edited by Steve Hinson on 08 June 2002 at 06:29 PM.] |
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Steven Welborn
From:
Ojai,CA USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2002 10:59 pm
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| cripes......forgot to mess with the open strings. I dont have my steel set up here at the moment but looks like the ticket.Thanks earnest. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From:
Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2002 1:44 pm
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| Thanks Herb. I guess you learn something everyday. Jack also hit that dissonance also then. Jack sure must play a lot like Jimmy Day. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2002 11:11 am
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Instead of open 4th string you can play E to E flat on the 8th string like:
4.___________________
5.___12~10___________
6.___12~10B__________
7.___________________
8.___12~10R__________
but it's easier to control the sliding pitches using the open 4th string and it sounds like Buddy did that. |
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Neil Flanz
From:
Austin, Texas (deceased)
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Posted 10 Jun 2002 8:01 pm
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| Steven, you're right it is Buddy and I believe that the lick starts by playing strings 4,5, and 6 at the 12th fret with the 4th string open and pedals A and B down sliding to the 10th fret while releasing your A pedal and engaging your E to Eb knee lever at the same time (4 and 8 lower) and then picking strings 4,5 and 6 with the bar covering all three strings at the 10th fret. |
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Neil Flanz
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Austin, Texas (deceased)
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Posted 10 Jun 2002 8:04 pm
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| Steven, you're right it is Buddy and I believe that the lick starts by playing strings 4,5, and 6 at the 12th fret with the 4th string open and pedals A and B down sliding to the 10th fret while releasing your A pedal and engaging your E to Eb knee lever at the same time (4 and 8 lower) and then picking strings 4,5 and 6 with the bar covering all three strings at the 10th fret. |
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