What kind of music won't sound nice on steel?

Johan Jansen · Post by **Johan Jansen** » 2 Aug 2001 12:08 pm

Wondering,
see steel also a a steelguitar-related instrument...
JJ

Gary Lee Gimble · Post by **Gary Lee Gimble** » 2 Aug 2001 12:16 pm

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 2 Aug 2001 12:17 pm

Opera probably...
the opera ain't over till the fat lady sings !

Ray Jenkins · Post by **Ray Jenkins** » 2 Aug 2001 12:33 pm

The muisc when I play

Ray

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Bob Mainwaring · Post by **Bob Mainwaring** » 2 Aug 2001 3:18 pm

Gary, - Johan said music!!

Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things.

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John Sims · Post by **John Sims** » 2 Aug 2001 3:35 pm

Tough Question! Opera has gotta sound great. I am a newbie, and play some Enya, and it sounds pretty nice. Look at Mike Perlowin's "Firebird Suite"! Pink Floyd (David Gilmore) heavy metal rock sounds awesome, just listen and look at these songs! (5th down on left) The "new" country sucks IMHO...(the music that is, not the steel) what can I say. And rap ain't music....real down home Blues is good too. I'd have to say what wouldn't sound good (to me) on steel is Dance, Progressive, Bluegrass, some Easy Listening, Tejano, Italian Pop and Mexicana. I think music such as Jazz, Blues, Light Rock, Alternative Rock, Classic Rock, R&B, Contemporary, Gospel, Classical, 70's, 80's, Solid Gold Oldies, all sound good on the steel... yadda, yadda, yadda...

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Pat Burns · Post by **Pat Burns** » 2 Aug 2001 3:36 pm

...I started to say "polka", but then I played a couple in my head, plugged in the steel instead of a clarinet, and it sounded OK!...Mariachi? No, the steel could substitute for horn harmonies...Sousa Marches? As long as you don't have to actually march, I could hear the steel in the mix, Sousa has great arrangements...Calypso? I don't know if the steel guitar would replace the steel drums out front, but they certainly would fit for fills...

...Rap was the first thing that came to my mind, but I don't want to be too hasty in ruling that out, you never know...

bob drawbaugh · Post by **bob drawbaugh** » 2 Aug 2001 5:21 pm

Johan...I can't think of any music that would not sould good on steel. Thee is alot of styles I don't like but I think the steel would work

ajm · Post by **ajm** » 2 Aug 2001 5:23 pm

On "The Notting Hillbillies" album Paul Franklin plays some stuff that might be described as calypso or cha cha or I don't know......but the point is IMHO it sounds good.

So there goes one more form where we may have doubts. I kind of have a feeling that you have to have a good song first, otherwise you're fighting an uphill battle from the get go.

Michael Johnstone · Post by **Michael Johnstone** » 2 Aug 2001 6:36 pm

There's probably a lot of steel PLAYERS who wouldn't sound good on certain types of music but that's not the fault of the instrument itself. -MJ-

BJ Bailey · Post by **BJ Bailey** » 2 Aug 2001 9:31 pm

I would go so far as to say,you could take a steel to India.Find a long enough extention cord to plug your amp.Then set your steel out in the market in front of one of those jugs.And if you got the talent,quiver that bar just right .You could charm a cobra out of the jug.Let's see would we Quiver the 0=11
The music is there but are you????")

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Lem Smith · Post by **Lem Smith** » 2 Aug 2001 9:39 pm

B.J. said...

The music is there but are you????

Not for very long anyway, once the cobra started coming outta the "jug"!!!

Lem

Ernie Renn · Post by **Ernie Renn** » 3 Aug 2001 1:28 am

Opera??
Would it be, "The opera ain't over until the fat steeler plays"? (I may have a gig here...

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Rainer Hackstaette · Post by **Rainer Hackstaette** » 3 Aug 2001 4:46 am

I wouldn´t exclude ANY instrument from ANY kind of music, but I would exclude ALL accordions from ALL kinds of music.

I think Abraham Lincoln said that ...

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Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 3 Aug 2001 7:14 am

I have played in a few new music operas and it was very challenging and fun. The money was much better than a typical country gig. NYC has a great Hip Hop and Rap music tradition. I really hope that I get a chance to play with some of those guys some time soon. To my ear the Rap/ Hip Hop scene has some of the most creative and talented
producers and artists that are making a living in popular music these days.

The best live music scene around here is Latin music. Big, wild dance parties with a stage full of killing musicians. Once I get my jazz chops a bit more together I plan on being the weird white guy on stage with those cats !

Bob[This message was edited by Bob Hoffnar on 03 August 2001 at 09:55 AM.]

Craig Allen · Post by **Craig Allen** » 3 Aug 2001 8:38 am

Anything being produced in Gnashville these days.

Z.Z.Topp;Lynard Skynard; Bob Seegar;

Just keep it Country

Greg Vincent · Post by **Greg Vincent** » 3 Aug 2001 10:43 am

We'd BETTER find a way to get steel into hip hop if we want kids to start getting interested in our instrument.

When we say "Rap isn't music" we eliminate ourselves from what will be the dominant form of poplular music for the next 10-20 years.

While not being involved in hip hop might suit some here just fine, it does nothing for the future of our instrument.

GV
(off my soapbox now

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Gary Lee Gimble · Post by **Gary Lee Gimble** » 3 Aug 2001 10:55 am

Looks like Bob Hoffnar and GV is on to something. Maybe we can persuade Itzhak Perlman to do some fills on the next Rap/Hip Hop CD coming out!

Gary Lee

Greg Vincent · Post by **Greg Vincent** » 3 Aug 2001 11:21 am

Now you're pulling our legs, Gary!

GV

Dale Sollenberger · Post by **Dale Sollenberger** » 3 Aug 2001 12:06 pm

The Same Kinda "Rock & Roll,Drum Poundin',Cymbal Crashin'Screechy,Howlin'Out Of Tune, Feed Back Guitar Crap" I've Been Playing For The Last 4 Years.

Gary Lee Gimble · Post by **Gary Lee Gimble** » 3 Aug 2001 12:20 pm

GV,
The only thing I pull is chicken. Jamaicans call it jerk chicken and in Washington, DC, they put mumbo sauce on it!

Johan Jansen · Post by **Johan Jansen** » 3 Aug 2001 12:25 pm

Nice to know some forumites are very openminded to music!
About hiphop and steel, you should check out this musicfile by BJ Cole and Luke Vipert, it's from their album stop the panic:
http://www.astralwerks.com/ram/vibert_swing.ram
More about BJ Cole you can find trough this link:
http://www.astralwerks.com/vibertcole/

btw, who is Itzhak Perlman ?
thanks,Johan[This message was edited by Johan Jansen on 03 August 2001 at 01:32 PM.]

Ernie Renn · Post by **Ernie Renn** » 3 Aug 2001 12:34 pm

When we say "Rap isn't music" we eliminate ourselves from what will be the dominant form of poplular music for the next 10-20 years

Guess I'll have to listen to my own music collection then. (Buddy Emmons, Lloyd Green, Curly Chalker, Ernest Tubb & the Texas Troubadours, Gene Watson, Merle Haggard, George Jones, Darrell McCall, etc...)
Que Sara Sara

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Gary Lee Gimble · Post by **Gary Lee Gimble** » 4 Aug 2001 4:11 am

Johan,
Performing around the world, Itzhak's classical violin has captured many hearts. I really admire an accomplished violin/fiddle picker, only four strings, no pedals or knee levers and no obsolete Session 500 sitting in the basement and no pain in the back injuries from picking up a violin case!

Just what is it about the steel that has made me an addict!
Gary Lee

Ann Fabian · Post by **Ann Fabian** » 4 Aug 2001 7:59 am

Here's a link to a couple videos with Billy Phelps (one video has him playing Z.Z. Top's "LaGrange"):

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum15/HTML/000293.html

Ann Fabian
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