Who played Steel w: Louis Jordan ?

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 9 Jul 2001 12:31 pm

Greetings y'all.
i was listening to a Louis Jordan CD the other day. On this " Boogie in the Barnyard " tune there's a Break w: a Steel playin.
Anybody knows who that Steeler was ?$
Steel thankin' y'all + peep on kickin'!

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 9 Jul 2001 2:55 pm

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Janice Brooks · Post by **Janice Brooks** » 9 Jul 2001 3:54 pm

No it would have been Decca
Moving this topic to Steel Players

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CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 12 Jul 2001 11:18 pm

i got a reply via Email on this post from a fellow called Roger.
he wrote: The liner notes w: this CD indicates that this tune ( Boogie in the Barnyard ) was recorded in 1947.
the style of playing reminds me a little bit of Speedy West.
To the best of my knowledge i believe that Speedy arrived in Calif. in 1949.
As for Jody, i think he may have been 10 years old in 1947, so that would rule him out
Herb Remington and Joachim Murphy were in Calif. at the time but it does'nt sound like either of them.
i am listening to the recording now as i am writing this.
i think it must be Noel Boggs !
Let's see if someone comes up w: some proof ?
Sincerely, Roger

Well So far this 'bout all i got as a reply.
Anybody want to help move this thread along ?
i'm sure there are of Louis Jordan afficionados amongst ya's !
Steel shakin' it

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 13 Jul 2001 2:29 am

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Chris DeBarge · Post by **Chris DeBarge** » 13 Jul 2001 3:11 am

There was already a discussion about this, maybe 6 months ago. You could search the forum, I of course forgot who the steel player was, but Speedy sounds right.

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 13 Jul 2001 8:47 am

Crow Bear
Thanks for the compliment,,,10 years old in 1947??? I"ll take that and leave it there.

Thanks for keeping me a youngster...now i wont need a facelift after all...

Jerry Gleason · Post by **Jerry Gleason** » 13 Jul 2001 9:16 am

The steel solo on "Barnyard Boogie" was by Carl Hogan, an electric guitarist who was featured on many of Louis Jordan's sessions around that time. I don't know if he was a regular member of the Tympani Five or not. It's pretty obvious from the solo that he has only a rudimentary knowledge of the steel, and it was probably included as a novelty effect. The solo is basically one grip and a doo-wa, a la speedy, but it adds a little something different to the standard jump blues sound.

The band I play in, the JiveMasters, covers this song, but I don't do the original steel solo, which I think is a little lame, to be honest. It's a fun song to play, though.

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 14 Jul 2001 5:17 am

Thanx Jerry, you came w: the right 1 !
Carl Hogan.
true the steel part is rather basic, but i was curious as to who played it.
BTW i really like your Graphics !

Steel dig you later ....

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 14 Jul 2001 6:16 am

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Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 16 Jul 2001 6:20 am

I never recorded with Louis Jordan,,but I did
with Duke Ellington,,,,how old does that make me?? Gene ,,,I like this fellow,,,he makes me feel so young,,,,makes me feel like spring has sprung,,,
I like Frank ,,,,as for Crow Bear,,,"You Make me Feel So Young" thanks

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 16 Jul 2001 6:42 am

"...songs to be sung, and a wonderful fling to be flung..."

I've always wanted to sing with you Jody-man!!

It wasn't me on the Louis Jordan recording, incidentally. I was only two years old and not getting very many sessions at that time. Come to think of it, I'm STILL not getting very many sessions!

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Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 16 Jul 2001 7:50 am

Herb,,,no sessions??? I have a "session today" I have to lie on a couch and "tell all"

I can make an appointment for you as well,,hey now I have people guessing my age.
never knew I was that important,,,here i'll give ya a clue..

I was at Leo Fenders "bar mitzvah" I played his first steel guitar,,,he made it in the workshop class in the 5th grade...Does that give a clue,,,,

What is this coming too,,,first I see "I hope your dog dies,,,,then "hey thats my mother your'e talkin about,,now a guy writes and sez,,,,,,you told me you were 64 years old,,,how old now???...tell ya Herb,,,,this Forum is starting to "get to me"

Okay here's the deal weight 155Lbs height 5ft 10 " dark brown hair a little gray mixed in ,,,slender build....likes western swing,,looking for a companion to share musical interests,,must like Spade Cooley, Bob Wills, Asleep at the Wheel, Tom Morell,Buddy Emmons, Roy Wiggins Jerry Byrd
Speedy West, Noel Boggs, Herb Steiner, Joaquin Murphey, Herb Remington ( the one that invented the Remington typewriter).

Likes quiet evenings at home,,,an "egg cream"
strictly "straight" type of guy,,,hate to be bugged by people "prying into my private life" if you qualify,,,great if not,,,,Find some other cat,,,,meow,,,Oh yeah must like housebroken "monkeys" Now leave it go .

bOb Move this to "PERSONALS" PS 8/1/2 shoe waist size 32 and pushing it,,,suit size 39 regular preference " Ralph Lauren" presntly married 47 years,,,but am open to offers.....
Messhugina's need not apply ,,,,, had to correct shoe size Im a 9 now,,,,not 8/1/2 anything else,??,,,dont get personal now....thats why the "edit" other wise I would be taken to task in the future,,,,,hey you said you wore an 8/1/2 shoe I found out you are a nine,,,,,Oh Man give me a "break"
Never Mind bOb,,,,
Im MOVING THIS TO PERSONAL,,,WMM looking for Steel players with new tunings...strictly for mutual musical Interests.....[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 16 July 2001 at 08:58 AM.]

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 16 Jul 2001 12:15 pm

Musik Police hear Jody ....
Can you prove you were not 10 in 1947 ?
Do you know what we do w: minors ?
how bout that Steel pen ?
Now All U got is just 1 phone kall ....
Steel short + sweet

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 17 Jul 2001 5:14 pm

Hey Bear'

I checked around,,,some say it was Roy Smeck
the "Wizard of the strings" btw I have had no replies re my qualifications,,,I guess the shoe size dont "fit" like that old saying
"If The shoe Fits Wear It"
Oh you Frenchman....my son in law is from germany,,,do you speak german??

I can have him e mail you in German,,,I dont speak French...I do remember years ago,,,I met a frenchman.....he said to his girl friend
"kiss me yes??,,,,I said to him what does that mean...he said its the way we make love in France,,,,I said Kiss me "yes" in the USA thats how we keep our jobs,,,,only the yes was pronounced with an "A" easy for me to say
difficult to explain.....viva la france & all that stuff,,,,,regards to Roger,,,the best friend a "frenchman ever had"[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 17 July 2001 at 06:19 PM.]

Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 17 Jul 2001 9:27 pm

Geez guys, I missed this one entirely.

All I can add is that Speedy West hit California in the mid 1940s, he was playing with Ray Hahn's group as early as 1946, then gigs with the likes of Spade Cooley (1948), Reg Egner & Billy Hill (1948), Hank Penny (1948-1949), before joining Cliffie Stone's show and band in 1949, He made his recording debut in 1948, I think it was with Eddie Kirk.
To be honest, as I statred to read the topic I thought it might have been Speedy, but it wasn't. Oh well.

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 18 Jul 2001 4:08 am

Jason,,,,NO WAY ,,,you are the most knowledgable person I have ever known.

Keep trying you will have the answer Im sure.

Here's one for you,,,do you play cards??
Do you know one card from the other??

"Whats The Other"??? keep trying guy...

Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 18 Jul 2001 7:53 pm

Jody, I actually think that Jerry Gleason has already proposed the answer, which was Carl Hogan. It seems more than plausable and indeed most likely. Although I really wish Speedy or Joaquin or someone of that calibre recorded with Jordan.

What I find interesting is the fact that you recorded with Duke Ellington!

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 19 Jul 2001 7:59 am

Jason
Check your e mail

Terry Wood · Post by **Terry Wood** » 19 Jul 2001 12:53 pm

I don't have a clue who played on the recording, but here is some info on The Speedster.

Speedy West was born January, 1925 at Springfield, MO. He was raised on a farm at Strafford, MO about 10 miles east of Springfield. He milked cows among other farming jobs. Lucky for us, he desired to pursue his dream of playing the steel guitar.
He arrived in CA around 1946. He had one of the very first pedal steel guitars made by Bigsby.

I'm so glad to call him a friend, and one of my mentors.

Terry J. Wood
Heaven;ly Math
3 Nails + 1 Cross = 4 Given

John Steele · Post by **John Steele** » 19 Jul 2001 2:00 pm

Yeah, Jody,
We wanna hear the story about you recording with Ellington.
At least, I do, anyway !

-John
p.s. Barney Bigard was a friend-of-a-friend... this week I was given an unreleased recording from Barney's private collection. Too cool !