Steel Player/Players on Lefty album?

Dave Burr · Post by **Dave Burr** » 12 Jul 2001 12:26 pm

I just recently bought a Lefty Frizzell CD titled "That's the Way Love Goes - The Final Recordings of Lefty Frizzell". Most of this CD was cut between '72' and '74'. Not all of it is great, but most of it is. Unfortunately, as like most compilation albums there are no credits. From what I can tell there are several different steelers on the album. One particular cut just knocked me out... The kickoff is great, but the turnaround is outstanding and I'd like to know who played it. I'm thinking maybe Lloyd Green. The song is called "She Found the Key". Some of the material on this album would stand up with the best of Lefty's material. I'm going to try to send a clip to Ricky & Rebel to post on their site. Hopefully, someone will tab it.

If any of you have the original album with credits, I'd love to know who is playing steel on this song.

Thanks!

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Dave Burr
Remington Sustainmaster S-10 w/pad 3x4

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Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 12 Jul 2001 3:30 pm

June 14, 1972
Columbia Studios - Nashville, TN
Producer: Glenn Sutton
Songs: "GIVE ME MORE, MORE, MORE (OF YOUR KISSES)" 2 Ray Price - Lefty Frizzell - Jim Beck
"YOU BABE" Sanger D. Shafer
"THIS JUST AIN'T NO GOOD DAY FOR LEAVIN'"
Dallas Frazier - Sanger D. Shafer
Personnel: Lefty Frizzell - vocal
Ray Edenton - guitar
Jimmy Capps - guitar
Glenn Sutton - guitar
Pete Drake - steel guitar
Bob Thompson - banjo
Hargus "Pig" Robbins - piano
Bob Moore - bass
Buddy Harman - drums

December 14, 1972
Woodland Sound Studio - Nashville, TN
Producer: Don Gant
Songs:"DOWN BY THE RAILROAD TRACK"
Dallas Frazier
"LET ME GIVE HER FLOWERS"Gordon H. Terry
"IF I HAD HALF THE SENSE (A FOOL WAS BORN WITH)" Donald Lee Pearce
Personnel: Lefty Frizzell - vocal
Pete Wade - guitar
Jimmy Capps - guitar
Bob Thompson - guitar
Hal Rugg - steel guitar
Gordon Terry - fiddle
Ron Oates - piano
Bobby Dyson - bass
Jim Isbell - drums

December 19, 1972
Woodland Sound Studio - Nashville, TN
Producer: Don Gant
Songs:"I BUY THE WINE" Rory M. Bourke - Gayle Barnhill
"IF SHE JUST HELPS ME GET OVER YOU" Allen Reynolds - Don Williams
"FALLING" Sanger D. Shafer - A.L. Owens
"RAILROAD LADY" Jimmy Buffett - Jerry Jeff Walker
Personnel: Lefty Frizzell - vocal
Jerry Stembridge - guitar
Jimmy Capps - guitar
John Lee Christopher - guitar
Hal Rugg - steel guitar
Gordon Terry - fiddle
Buddy Spicher - fiddle
Ron Oates - piano
Bobby Dyson - bass
Jim Isbell - drums

July 17, 1973
Woodland Sound Studio - Nashville, TN
Producer: Don Gant
Songs: "I CAN'T GET OVER YOU TO SAVE MY LIFE"
Sanger D. Shafer - Lefty Frizzell
"I NEVER GO AROUND MIRRORS" Sanger D. Shafer - Lefty Frizzell
"THAT'S THE WAY LOVE GOES" Sanger D. Shafer - Lefty Frizzell
Personnel: Lefty Frizzell - vocal
Abe Mulkey - harmony vocal
Grady Martin - guitar / leader
Harold Bradley - guitar
Jerry Stembridge - guitar
Pete Drake - steel guitar
Johnny Gimble - fiddle
Buddy Spicher - fiddle
Hargus "Pig" Robbins - piano
Bob Moore - bass
Buddy Harman - drum

April 30, 1974
Woodland Sound Studio - Nashville, TN
Producer: Don Gant
Songs: "SHE FOUND THE KEY" Sanger D. Shafer - Lefty Frizzell
"I WONDER WHO'S BUILDING A BRIDGE" A.L. Owens - Roger Burch
"MY WISHING ROOM" Sanger D. Shafer - Lefty Frizzell
Personnel: Lefty Frizzell - vocal
Abe Mulkey - harmony vocal
Jerry Shook - guitar
Jimmy Capps - guitar
Harold Bradley - guitar
Jeff Newman - guitar
Weldon Myrick - steel guitar
Buddy Spicher - fiddle
Hargus "Pig" Robbins - piano
Billy Linneman - bass
Jim Isbell - drums

August 14, 1974
Woodland Sound Studio - Nashville, TN
Producer: Don Gant
Songs: "I'M GONNA HANG OUT MY MIND TODAY"
Sanger D. Shafer - Dallas Frazier
"SITTIN' AND THINKIN'" Charlie Rich
"I LOVE YOU A THOUSAND WAYS" 4 Lefty Frizzell - Jim Beck
"I'M NOT THAT GOOD AT GOODBYE" Bob McDill - Don Williams
Personnel: Lefty Frizzell - vocal
Jerry Stembridge - guitar
Jeff Newman - guitar
Kelso Herston - guitar
Reggie Young - guitar
Weldon Myrick - steel guitar
Buddy Spicher - fiddle
Bobby Wood - piano
Henry Strzelecki - bass
Jim Isbell - drums

October 22, 1974
Woodland Sound Studio - Nashville, TN
Producer: Don Gant
Songs: "YESTERDAY JUST PASSED MY WAY AGAIN"
Sanger D. Shafer - Darlene Shafer
"LIFE'S LIKE POETRY" Merle Haggard
Personnel: Lefty Frizzell - vocal
David Kirby - guitar
Kelso Herston - guitar
John Lee Christopher - guitar
Jerry Shook - guitar
Jeff Newman - steel guitar
Johnny Gimble - fiddle
Ron Oates - piano
Billy Linneman - bass
Jerry Carrigan - drums

Jim Eaton · Post by **Jim Eaton** » 12 Jul 2001 3:41 pm

Jason, What no time of day or the temperature in the studio during the session!
You knock me out with how much you know about PSG history.
Glad we have you on the forum to answer these questions for us!
JE:-)>

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 12 Jul 2001 5:25 pm

Good ol' Mr. Weldon! I haven't heard this song by Lefty, but everything Weldon ever did impressed me.

Bob Carlson · Post by **Bob Carlson** » 12 Jul 2001 6:21 pm

Jason,
Do you know who played steel on his cut of " How Far Down Can I Go". It's the most flat out country steel I've heard.
Sanger D Shaffer Is Whitty.

Bob Carlson[This message was edited by Bob Carlson on 13 July 2001 at 05:43 PM.]

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 12 Jul 2001 7:23 pm

Jason,,,you are a "genius" you continue to amaze me....they should have had you investigate the "warren commision report" & The O.J. mystery...you are too much man.

Never knew anyone had as much knowledge as you,,I glad you dont represent the IRS....

KEVIN OWENS · Post by **KEVIN OWENS** » 12 Jul 2001 7:23 pm

"How Far Down Can I Go"
"She's Gone Gone Gone"
"Running Into Memories of You"
"Confused"
(from the Columbia LP "The Sad Side of Love"
Recorded: February 10, 1965, 2-5 PM
Columbia Studio B - 804 16 Ave. South, Nashville TN
Produced by Don Law & Frank Jones

Grady Martin - lead Guitar / leader
Ray Edenton - rhythm
Harold Bradley - bass guitar (tic-tac)
Pete Drake - steel
Joe Zinken - bass
Buddy Harmon - drums
Bill Pursell - piano
Abe Mulkey - harmony vocal

Kevin

Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 12 Jul 2001 7:48 pm

Thanks guys, but as you can see, Kevin knows his stuff too.

Jody, thanks to one of my old bosses using an outdated form, it set off a chain of events where me and the Tax guys where practically buddies. Except for the part where they kept taking all my money.
LOL (kinda)

Dave Burr · Post by **Dave Burr** » 12 Jul 2001 8:44 pm

Jason! Wow! Thanks so much! You have provided a wealth of information. It's much appreciated! Donny, I hope you get a chance to hear it someday. It's fantastic! I'm going to try to send a clip of the intro and turnaround to Rebel & Ricky to put on their website. Who knows maybe Ricky or Jeff will tab it.

Thanks again!

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Dave Burr
Remington Sustainmaster S-10 w/pad 3x4

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 13 Jul 2001 2:50 am

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Bob Carlson · Post by **Bob Carlson** » 13 Jul 2001 4:41 pm

Kevin,
I didn't know Pete Drake played a E9th tuning. I thought he only played his own tuning and setup on the back neck which I felt was limited In what he could get out of. What he did get was real purty and differant. The sounds he got on Willie Nelson, Red Sovine and Tammy's early recordings. Do you know any back ground on that?.
Thanks for the info and hoping for more.

Bob Carlson

KEVIN OWENS · Post by **KEVIN OWENS** » 13 Jul 2001 5:18 pm

Bob
Pete's E9th & C6th tunings as of March 1975 (Winnie Winston book):

E9th
<pre>
1 2 3 4 5 6 rkl rkr
F# G
Eb
G# A G A
E F# Eb
B C# D C#
G# A G A
F#
E Eb F Eb
D
B C#
</pre>
C6
<pre>
1 2 3 4 5 6 RKL RKR
G A
E F Eb
C D B
A B B
G F#
E Eb
C
A B
F F# E
C D A
</pre>

Some of Pete's early sounding E9th stuff was played on C6 (late 50's - early 60's).
The combination of pedals 3, 4 and rkl(E9th) is what Pete used instead of the F knee lever and the A pedal. Pedals 3, 4 and rkl (two frets up) = F knee lever and A pedal (three frets up).

Hope this makes sense
Kevin [This message was edited by KEVIN OWENS on 13 July 2001 at 06:21 PM.][This message was edited by KEVIN OWENS on 13 July 2001 at 06:23 PM.]

Bob Carlson · Post by **Bob Carlson** » 13 Jul 2001 5:51 pm

Thanks for the Info again Kevin. I'm going to have to ponder on that awhile.
I didn't think I'd ever get as far as I have on the E9th and I made the mistake of buying an SD-10 instead of a D-10 and now I'm sorry because I want to try the C-6th. Live and learn.

Bob Carlson