Your PSG may be somebody else's B@NJO.

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 2 Jul 2001 7:01 am

All of us here love the pedal steel guitar. (Yes, I'm good at stating the obvious.) But there are also some here who have contrary passions towards other instruments, such as the b@njo. This leads me to what seems a logical question:

Are there folks on the planet who actually dislike (or worse) the PSG?

If so, what's wrong with them? How do we get them fixed? Maybe enact legislation to marginalize their disturbed notions?

[I'm still treating this part of the Forum as if it were Bar Chatter. This thread may end up getting moved to Pedal Steel or Music. Or maybe b0b should start a B@njo area?]

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Tony Rankin · Post by **Tony Rankin** » 2 Jul 2001 7:10 am

There may indeed be a few wayward souls out there that don't like the sound of a steel guitar. I am not a physician, but I am guessing that electro-shock therapy might be the answer to bring them around.

Joe Smith · Post by **Joe Smith** » 2 Jul 2001 7:27 am

Tony that may be a good idea

I played at a coffie house once and the lady who owned the place hated the steel. She said it was too whiney. I think she needed a little electro-shock

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Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 2 Jul 2001 7:43 am

Never could understand that...

When straight guitar players bend strings, they'ye "cool". And, when steelers do the same thing, it's called that dumb "whiney" sound.

Keep in mind...all that "outrageous, totally new" stuff that Jimi Hendrix did was done decades earlier by beginning steelers with bad speakers.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 2 Jul 2001 8:01 am

There are a lot of people who don't like steel because they associate it with country music, which they don't like. These same people have no problem when they hear players like Greg Leisz or Bruce Kaphan, though. They don't realize that it's the same instrument.

Don't hold your breath waiting for a b@nJø forum here, Bill

Bob Mainwaring · Post by **Bob Mainwaring** » 2 Jul 2001 9:19 am

I`ve a friend who`s a good guitar picker that firmly believes that Buddy Emmons`s "Flint Hill Special" is a regular guitar - or an electric Banjo.......... go figure.

Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things.

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Steve Feldman · Post by **Steve Feldman** » 2 Jul 2001 10:16 am

What these folks obviously need is a HIGH-VOLTAGE charge of Electrob@njo Therapy!

Don Walters · Post by **Don Walters** » 2 Jul 2001 12:40 pm

Bobby Lee is right. None of my sons really like country music (of any generation) but one of them bought a copy of Bob Taillefer's Nouveau Steel

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Larry Miller · Post by **Larry Miller** » 2 Jul 2001 2:33 pm

Buck Trent sure could make his Electric Banjo, with Scruggs Tuners, sound like a Pedal Steel Guitar.... BIG TIME!

Quesney Gibbs · Post by **Quesney Gibbs** » 2 Jul 2001 2:35 pm

I once knew a very good guitar player in New Orleans who hated PSG and let everyone know it.

After doing a couple of gigs with that simpleton I finally realized it was plain old envy.

He tried all night to get the voiceing that I could do but could not due to a lack of strings.

I really enjoyed beating him down in the dirt with some fat c6th that he had no hope of doing.

Bob Mainwaring · Post by **Bob Mainwaring** » 2 Jul 2001 3:42 pm

Hey - Larry, Buck Trent - one of my old heros. He had me fooled years ago as I was trying for quite some time to figure out what "that" sound was, sure was/is a picker!
Buck Trent and Roy Clarke made that L.P. picking classic way back when.

Bob Mainwaring Z.Bs. and other weird things.

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Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 3 Jul 2001 3:35 pm

b0b, I think you're right about the defacto association of the PSG with country music. If one doesn't like country then one probably also doesn't much like fiddle, twangy Telecasters, pedal steel, dobro, mandolin, and so on. So it's nice to see PSG in other forms of music as well as country. For b@njo, might it really be that it's non-fans just don't like bluegrass?

I don't dislike b@njo, personally (I even had an uncle who played it very well), but I'm going to risk repeating a joke I heard recently, all in good fun, of course:

What do a banjo and an artillary shell have in common? By the time you hear either of them, it's too late.

Like I said, I have no problems with banjo, but I thought that one was funny. (The same could be said about my steel playing, BTW.)

[This message was edited by Bill Llewellyn on 03 July 2001 at 04:42 PM.]

John Sims · Post by **John Sims** » 3 Jul 2001 4:03 pm

You oughta hear "firebird Suite" by Mike Perlowin!

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Roger Edgington · Post by **Roger Edgington** » 4 Jul 2001 2:14 pm

Who don't like PSG? Get a rope!

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 5 Jul 2001 11:54 am

I dare anyone to pick up a PSG and play it like a b@nj0.

Jim Bob Sedgwick · Post by **Jim Bob Sedgwick** » 8 Jul 2001 7:12 pm

Last Saturday was the first time I heard one in a sober condition. I don't think I like it either! (Just kidding)

Al Marcus · Post by **Al Marcus** » 8 Jul 2001 7:27 pm

Well, I don't know if this is good or bad, but I was never called a "Whiney" steel player.........al....

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 8 Jul 2001 7:33 pm

OK. So I go to Yahoo auctions and do a search for "steel guitar". Here is what I got.
http://search.auctions.yahoo.com/search/auc?p=steel+guitar&alocale=0us&acc=us

I think it's a conspiracy.

Lee, from South Texas