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Topic: E7 vs. E9 |
Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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c c johnson
From:
killeen,tx usa * R.I.P.
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Posted 24 Mar 2005 8:25 am |
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| The advantage to E9 e b g# f# e d b low E is is sounds more jazzy whrn you incl;ude the F# strg. Foe the Andy Iona stuff just forget the F#. For some real good stuff run the B up to C# and have a ball. Why the low E .056 ? With B raised to C# its easier to play boot heel drag especially when your bass player can't find his a$$ with both hands. CC |
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Wayne Cox
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Chatham, Louisiana, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 24 Mar 2005 8:44 am
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RICK, I confess that I'm not much of a six-string player. Its just psychological. I just feel too limited, but with 7 or 8 strings and up, I'm right at home with E7,E9, or E13. Even though you or I can hear a big difference in these tunings,experience has taught me that the listening publick can't. Therefore, regardless of expanded chord possibilities,slants,scales,etc.,it always just seems to come back to which tuning is more fun to play on a particular gig. My "mainstay" 8-string tuning is (lo to hi) D E F# G# B C# E D#. I use the D# to give me a partial B6 tuning to work out of without re-tuning. So, you might consider D F# G# B E D#. However, out of your two six-string tunings, I would favor the E9 because of the increased scale execution possibilities. If there is no standard guitar player and you are the whole lead section, the low E of the E7 sure is handy. Just my $0.02.
~~W.C.~~ |
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Dwayne Martineau
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 24 Mar 2005 9:21 am
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This relates to an 8-string question I have...
On my Leon McAuliffe-style E13 neck, I usually just get tripped up by the F# and lower it to E...
(low to high): E G# D F# G# B C# E
alternate: B E
Other than just giving you a 9th chord, what are the advantages?
Can anyone post some chords, scales, or licks that really exploit that F# string?
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2005 9:24 am
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CC and WC ... thanks for the input ...
What I'm tryin' to do in these "series of comparisons" ... is to lay out the "fretboard" on these popular tunings ...
And try and get folks to give input on why they like or dislike a particular tunin' ... from their own personal experiences.
Mostly for folks who are just startin' out.
I'm diagraming 6 strings ... cause I'm lazy ... and figure folks can extend them out to 7, 8 or 10 at their leisure.
Personally, I'm a die hard six string C6/A7 player (who dabbles in E9) ...
Thanks again for joinin' in ... 
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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Dwayne Martineau
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 24 Mar 2005 2:00 pm
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Yeah... all I can find on E13th on The Forum, other than Oklahoma Stomp, is variants of "help!" and "can't help ya!" 
Don Helms' E13 book/CD only deals with E6, essentially.
I know that some of my favourite sounds live on E13... somewhere. I feel at home on C6, but it just isn't dissonant enough sometimes.
Rick, you've got me itching to try that 3-5-1 combo on the top strings.
All my tunings have that 6th breaking it up.
Of course, there are some nice 3-string minor, dim, aug, and 9th slants across the 6-1-3-5 strings as well.
Do you miss that 3-5-1 combo on the C6/A7?
Do you feel E9 gives more lead options to you than the C6/A7?
...and I thought having room for four tunings would be enough... 
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Jeff Au Hoy
From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 24 Mar 2005 3:48 pm
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We can also transpose both E7 and E9 down a third to help see them more "in a C6 light":
E7 E9 C6/(13)
(down a 3rd) (down a 3rd)
E
C C C
G G A
E E G
C D E
Bb C C
C Bb (Bb)
[This message was edited by Jeff Au Hoy on 24 March 2005 at 03:54 PM.] |
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