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Topic: Ray Kinney Orchestra Plays Analani E |
Jeff Au Hoy
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Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 7:13 am |
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| Believe it or not, there were some great steel players in Hawai'i after Dick McIntire and before Jerry Byrd. Here's one of my favorites Tommy Koani (Tommy Castro) playing Analani E with the Ray Kinney orchestra. The video and audio don't match up but it's something to watch/hear. [This message was edited by Jeff Au Hoy on 30 November 2006 at 07:14 AM.] |
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Gary Lynch
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Creston, California, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 7:26 am
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| Classic and very classy. Thanks, it made my day...... |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 7:45 am
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This, believe it or not, is actually my favorite Hawaiian stuff. I can't help it, I just like to see lots of musicians working and playing well. I like Tommy Castro and Bobby Nichols, especially.
Thanks to our pal, Dave Stuckey, for coming through again with another great clip. |
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 10:22 am
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What's hard to believe?
If this was still played in the hotels and clubs in Hawaii, or anywhere, there would be mobs.
I refer to this particular clip, and type, constantly.
Just try and find something better.
This is the flip side of the languid/beatufully melodic music that made it huge in the day, and in large part why Hawaiian music has such a great and varied history.
You'll notice a 19 year old Alfred Apaka near the camera when he and the others stand up for the vocal.[This message was edited by Ron Whitfield on 30 November 2006 at 10:23 AM.] |
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Gary Lynch
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Creston, California, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 10:47 am
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"If this was still played in the hotels and clubs in Hawaii, or anywhere, there would be mobs."
That is exactly what I was thinking but did not know if I was 'out of time'. What a show for both young and old. It would pack the house for a year straight I bet. Airlines could advertise it as one great reason to visit Hawaii and see it while you can. I want to buy a ticket for the show right now. |
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Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 10:52 am
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OK all you Oahu inhabitants, tell me if you think this would fly in current-day Waikiki.
If I had unlimited funds my fantasy would be to create a nightclub in Waikiki which would accurately duplicate the Waikiki nightclubs of the 1920's - 1940's. Same decor, same type of Hawaiian music/dance/entertainment, same feel - 2006 prices. I'd probably have to hire some Disney architects to design it.
Of course there would be a no t-shirt and cutoffs dress code.
What do you think? Would the place be mobbed or would I lose my shirt?
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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'
CEO, CIO, CFO - UkeTone Records
Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association
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Gary Lynch
From:
Creston, California, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 11:00 am
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| If it was kept classy, it may work well. Get some of the folks from the Outrigger CC to support your effort as well as have DeSoto Brown from the Bishop Museum getting behind it, etc. By the way, DeSoto could help you with the accuracy of the interior. It needs to feel Hawaiian earthy, not fake retro as so many clubs have become. In my mind I see Duke K sitting in the corner, at the best private table. [This message was edited by Gary Lynch on 30 November 2006 at 11:00 AM.] |
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 11:38 am
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Gerald
If done 'right', it'd be a huge success, but the 'right' part has a lot of hurdles, many of which you've no doubt mulled over in your (and mine) fantasy.
Let's hope we both succeed in realizing this dream and get to slug it out in the best way possible, with huge crowds every night at each club!
Don Ho's Island Grill at Aloha Tower, came close, but blew it by cheaping out on the entertainment big time, and letting the place slum up.
But when it was good, man, the place was packed and rockin'![This message was edited by Ron Whitfield on 30 November 2006 at 11:44 AM.] |
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Kevin Brown
From:
England
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 11:59 am
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| Ok,this is my humble input. THIS stuff swings, it rocks and it rolls, its bluesy, jazzy, its neither stereotypically this nor that, and thats exactly why its so exciting. To re-create this today one would have to bear these thoughts in mind, and players with this 'depth' are hard to find. God bless the forum, there you go, said and done, absolutely outstanding clip and so inspiring. [This message was edited by Kevin Brown on 30 November 2006 at 12:43 PM.] |
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Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Gary Lynch
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Creston, California, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 12:52 pm
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| Do it with class and the crowds will follow. |
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Kevin Brown
From:
England
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 12:55 pm
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| Gerald I paid £70.00 to see the Eagles in the UK this year (125.00 bucks) maybe your underpricing !! |
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Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Gary Lynch
From:
Creston, California, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 1:09 pm
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| Well one thing for certain, you need the bar to serve REAL Mai Tai's. No B.S. like they serve today. These need to be made from the best 100% fresh fruit juices (no mixes) and top shelf sprits. Charge what you need to but no FAUX Mai Tai's!!! |
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Don Kona Woods
From:
Hawaiian Kama'aina
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 2:09 pm
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I love this stuff too.
But management has ripped the heart and soul of Hawaiiana out for all of us, whether they be hotel managers, airline managers, etc.. for the lowest common denominator to squeeze as much money out as they can. I am in favor of making a profit, but how much do you need? 
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| Airlines could advertise it as one great reason to visit Hawaii and see it while you can. |
Could, could, could, should, should,etc. You can not even get the airlines to play any Hawaiian music, much less traditional Hawaiian music, on the airflights to Hawaii
today.
Over the years I have seen a lot of management go from the groups, to the trio, to the duet, and now it is a single person playing and singing.
Thanks for letting me vent.
Aloha, 
Don
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Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 3:12 pm
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| Thanks for sharing that Jeff. I'm old enough to remember that kind of music from the 30s. Tommy Castro had a nice sound and style. |
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Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Eddie Cunningham
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 7:06 pm
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JEFF !! Thanks for an amazing video !! I love that old Hawaiian sound and that Tommy can swing !! Looked like an old "Rick" ? The shirts were the long sleeve like the old "Hawaii Calls" shirts ! Like others I wish you could see and hear that type of the old Hawaii that I guess is gone forever !!
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George Keoki Lake
From:
Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 30 Nov 2006 11:10 pm
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Sadly, although folks like us would dearly love to see a big band Hawaiian format in the Royal Hawaiian Hotel for example, those days are long gone and will probably never return in our lifetime. The majority of today's tourists could give a damn about Hawaiian music or even care that it exists, preferring instead to patronize places like the HARD ROCK CAFE which they can find at home without travelling to Hawai'i.  |
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Jeff Au Hoy
From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 12:03 am
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| Keoki, you are so right. And the phenomenon seems to be everywhere. I went to Paris earlier this year with Hawaiian musicians... imagine my dismay when, even with all the fantastic local cuisine around us, all they sought to eat each day was pizza and MacDonalds. |
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Derrick Mau
From:
Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 9:09 am
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And I second the motion, and here's an example.
My cousin has been playing for tourist in Waikiki at Coconut Willy's at the International Market Place for 26 years now as a one man band.
When I went to see him, I asked him why he don't play Hawaiian songs. He replied: "I used to, but I can't hold the crowd with that type of music". "The customers have one drink and leave". "The tourist want to hear Country music, Elvis, Santana, and standards that they can get up and dance to". |
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Gary Lynch
From:
Creston, California, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 9:26 am
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| It's a sad state when history and tradition of great music and a exceptional place such as Hawaii is replaced with non related pacifiers. I used to think the word 'progress' was positive, now I am rethinking that notion. |
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Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 9:31 am
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It's a sad state of affairs.
I agree with Jeff on the ignorance of people.
I went to Europe this past summer. In my tour group were a number of American college and high school students.
We visited Madrid, Rome, Florence, Nice - you get the picture. Each of these cities had the most incredible food and drink all within easy reach and reasonably priced.
The kids ate McDonalds most of the time. When they felt like splurging on a meal they went to the Hard Rock Cafe.
There were also amazing musicians everywhere. Lots of hot accordion players, violinists, Flamenco guitarists. In the evenings the kids would go and listen to the equivalent of Jimmy Buffett.
Pearls before swine.
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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'
CEO, CIO, CFO - UkeTone Records
Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association
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Derrick Mau
From:
Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 11:24 am
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Anyone know of a restaurant in Waikiki that serves Hawaiian food?
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 1 Dec 2006 11:27 am
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Maybe the International Marketplace? At least you can get a little bit of Filipino food.  |
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