The Blue Screen Of Death

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 9 Dec 2002 9:50 pm

I have heard this expression used before,now
I have witnessed that experience. I called
Micron for support. They advised me to re-install my OS which is Windows 98 second edition. Why am I getting freeze ups? My PC
freezes and I have to shut down by using the
on off switch. Then when I re-boot I get the usual,blue screen telling me I did not shut
down by closing with start shut down procedure.

Today I had a wine colored window and I was
unable to close or use my mouse,I had to again shut down by manually using the switch.

A wine window and I dont even drink the stuff
any suggestions??? I dont think the support at Micron knows Blue from Red.

Any suggestions besides junking this thing?

Harry Busby · Post by **Harry Busby** » 10 Dec 2002 5:39 am

Jody. I used to get the same happening to me all the time. It was becoming a real pain. I upgraded to windows XP and have been really happy with the results. My machine very seldom crashes and if it does it usually is only the program I have to shut down not the computer. I still reboot the computer 2 or 3 times a week just for old time sake- not 2 or 3 times a day.
You still have to get around your present problem though. Try booting up in safe mode (F8) and fix your problem.
Hope you get it going
Harry Busby

Bill Crook · Post by **Bill Crook** » 10 Dec 2002 5:47 am

You have lost some needed O/S files....

Save whatever data and graphics files you want to keep, then have your techie-dude to do an f-disk (fresh from the egg)remake on your machine.

Believe me, this will take of your problem.

This next suggestion is only a thought.
I have done it a few times on different machines and it did work O.K.

Without doing a clean on the computer O/S, just re-install the "Windows 98 SE" operateing system. If any system files are bad, they will be over-written. This has worked well for me.

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 10 Dec 2002 7:41 am

Thanks Bill & Harry
But how do I save what I have stored in my documents folder if I overwite with a another
make over of Windows 98 or I upgrade to Windows XP.

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 10 Dec 2002 7:50 am

The last time that I re-installed Windows 98 (last week, on a friend's, PC, not W98 Second Edition) it did NOT destroy any of his existing documents or other installed programs.
So even tho we had backed up many things on other disks, it turned out that the backup was not necessary. Maybe this will happen to you too.

We just put the Windows 98 CD in the drive, turned off the computer, turned it on again, and followed the directions. We got a warning that this CD was meant to installed W98 on a new computer, but it appears that there is already an operating system installed on this PC. But we ignored the warning and installed anyway with no problems. You just click OK now and then, and it is pretty much automatic.

Mark Ardito · Post by **Mark Ardito** » 10 Dec 2002 10:54 am

Jody,

I would definitely recommend backing up your files before you reinstall.

Earnest, I don't know how you did the install without removing those files, but it usually does not work that way.

Jody - Do you have a CD Burner? ZIP drive? If you do, just move your files over to the drive and that is your backup.

You posted before about getting a new computer...have you decided against that? I would recommend moving up from Windows 98 Second Edition. I recommend Windows XP or 2000. For a home user I would pick Windows XP.

Please let me know if you need help with any decisions on purchasing hardware or software!

Mark

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Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 10 Dec 2002 4:40 pm

Thanks to all of you.I'll try to follow the
"yellow brick road" and hope that The Wizard
will guide me.

Thanks again.

Everett Cox · Post by **Everett Cox** » 11 Dec 2002 1:45 am

Jody, Mark, others-- Two weeks ago, I wanted to replace an old Win95 system with a full version Win98SE CD. I had moved the folders/files I wanted to keep to another partition as I expected a full install to reformat drive C:.

Put the Win98SE cd in and it auto started and began the install. I was surprised when up popped a message asking if I wanted to save the current Windows' and system settings. Since I *wanted* a complete overwrite of Win95, I answered "no" to the message and the install completed without any further interruption.

Upon rebooting and getting ready to reinstall some stuff, I was amazed to see that everything was still there. Cookies, Favorites, History, applications - all of it. And it all seems to be working fine.

--Everett

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 11 Dec 2002 8:32 pm

Everett
I would try that,but Im afraid I would mess something up,I always do.

RON PRESTON · Post by **RON PRESTON** » 12 Dec 2002 3:59 am

Jody, (and everyone else)
Just what is "O/S" files?
My wife and I are haveing the same problem as you, Jody.
But, she lost her personal program files last week. I do know that I recived an email from my wifes' user name...which is:
cathympres@aol.com I opened this email and KNEW RIGHT OFF that this was NOT from HER. The way this statement was said, I knew that that wasn't from her. I told her about it, and she said...I didn't send you anything.
NOW, the crazy thing is, SHE got an email from ME...steelawake@aol.com........SOMEBODY got our friggin' email address's and are having a ball!!!
So, I guess I will listen and learn from you guys as what to do.
We have all the back-up programs...and anything else to start over. We just need to know what and where to use what we have. We are NOT HACKERS...just country folk. BUT,
We are not compleatly Illitrate with computers.
Thanks in advance, everyone, and have a Happy and Merry Christmas.
Ron

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 12 Dec 2002 6:53 am

Ron
Everett can help you,I cant Im an IDIOT.

I read the book "Windows 98" for Dummies.
It didnt do me any good.

Im waiting for Windows 98 for MORONS,then I'll buy one.

Post by **Joey Ace** » 12 Dec 2002 7:56 am

maybe this'll help...

Jimmy Lewis · Post by **Jimmy Lewis** » 12 Dec 2002 9:38 am

Ron if you are having trouble with your computer I can help you. I live in Louisiana and I could either call you or you can call me. Let me know if I can be of any servic I do work with computers and would be very glad to help you any way I can.

Al Marcus · Post by **Al Marcus** » 12 Dec 2002 9:54 am

Jody-I used to get that Blue Screen a lot last year with Windows 98.

Now I got a new computer with Windows XP and never had it since.

My ISP Guru, took my old hard disc and plugged it into my new hard disc and copied everything over that I needed. It only took about an hour or less if I recall.

Xp is very forgiving and pretty automatic. It is easier to use.

I miss the extra control, and options I used to have with Windows 98 though at times.

But if you want a good one for (Dummies) get the one I got, Windows XP...Happy Holidays....al

Joel Glassman · Post by **Joel Glassman** » 12 Dec 2002 12:40 pm

Ron, this is probably the result of a virus.
Someone's address book has been "invaded".
It doesn't necessarily mean the virus is infecting your PCs, though it might be.
--Joel

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 12 Dec 2002 2:33 pm

Yo Joey
Thanks for the book. A check is in the mail.

Thank you Al,I guess Im not alone.

Joey,you are something else

RON PRESTON · Post by **RON PRESTON** » 12 Dec 2002 3:35 pm

Hey, Jimmy,
Where is Harrisonburg, La. anyway?
I live about 12 miles North of Winnfield,La., right on hwy 34, going towards Monroe. E-mail me at...steelawake@aol.com....or you can call me this comming week at (318)-628-5744...I will be on the holidays Vo-Tech Break until January 3rd, 2003. You can also call me on my cell # at, (318)-447-6499...
Thanks a million, Buddy.
Hey, Joel, You are right, I read last week where Sir John Hughey had gotten a virus, I belive. This computer acts just like it has a "Bug", but, I ran the Mcafee Virus scan on EVERYTHING, and it says there is no bug, so, I need to read the "Dummy Book" for sure, and as soon as I learn what the Heck is a going on, I will help Dear ol' Jody, or maybe he will learn it before me, and he can tell me what the heck is a going on....Good Luck, Jody, I know how ya feel, Man, I think we both were born in the wrong generation.

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 12 Dec 2002 3:51 pm

Jody, I got tired of my Windows 98 chewing me out all the time because "I didn't shut down properly" etc, and then punishing me by making me wait for scans etc. I solved the problem like Al did...I bought a new computer with XP and it operates like a dream. I did an effortless file transfer from 98 to XP with a CompUSA Link Cable.

I gave the W98 to my wife and it's now admonishing her all the time about something or other! (I decided not to tell her that it was already doing that when I had it)

Gene<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 12 December 2002 at 03:55 PM.]</p></FONT>

Michael Garnett · Post by **Michael Garnett** » 12 Dec 2002 6:14 pm

Upgrade to Windows 2000. It hasn't crashed on me since I put it on my computer back in May.

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 12 Dec 2002 7:28 pm

Thanks Michael
Can I buy an upgrade to windows 2000? and can
I install it fairly easy?

And Gene,your a cheap guy,why didnt you keep
the old PC and give the new one to Charlotte?

Im giving Marilyn my PC but Im keeping the monitor,she can have the key board and play
make beleive.

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 13 Dec 2002 11:10 am

Charlotte took the monitor that came with the new computer because it had a "flat screen". (the old one fills up half of my desk), but I still got the best of the deal.

Gene

Bobby Snell · Post by **Bobby Snell** » 13 Dec 2002 3:05 pm

Trying to put 2000 or XP on an older computer may be more frustration than it is worth. The minimum requirements for hardware are somewhat optimistic and both systems can benefit from recent technology.

On my home PC, I mainly use 98SE, although I have 2000 on another drive, because I depend on some older software (like games). 98SE with all the updates is a perfectly good system. If your PC's are crashing, there must be some problems that a good tech could resolve---that is a cheaper solution than replacing the computer.

However, if your processor is not at least 1 gig, your hardware will not be able to handle the majority of new software that will be released in the next few years.

So, if upgrading:

W2000 is good, but I have to think it is already as obsolete as 98SE, now that XP is out. Lots of little graphic effects, browser capabilities, etc., will be designed for the XP system.

The latest and greatest always costs more, but there are some great bargains on hardware right now, even if you go with mediocre systems from Dell, Gateway, Best Buy, and the rest. For the lucky people near small custom shops, $500-$900 should buy a whiz-bang fun box. For folks who don't have this kind of business nearby, maybe there's a kid in the neighborhood who can slap a processor on a motherboard, stick the motherboard in a case, wire up the power supply and fans, and plug in graphics-sound-modem cards. All components easily purchased and assembled. Not rocket science like PSG repair! But there is the added trouble of loading software, downloading drivers, configuring everything together.

Two things to consider: The consensus among some of my geekier friends is that XP has some security issues....and I don't like the tracking software that is part of the system. (But I will probably put it on the next system I assemble, because the older operating systems will no longer have tech support.)

My $.02...YMMV....

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 13 Dec 2002 3:31 pm

....The consensus among some of my geekier friends is that XP has some security issues....

I get security downloads from XP weekly and so far they have been ahead of the problems!
www.genejones.com

Post by **Joey Ace** » 13 Dec 2002 4:08 pm

I agree, Gene.
That's the value of having registered software. I'm alway happy when it tells me there's new updates and it's fetching them.

Bobby Snell · Post by **Bobby Snell** » 13 Dec 2002 5:12 pm

Since I have very limited exposure to XP, I will defer to y'all who use it all the time. And the "security issues" are not casual use. They are talking about some high level hacking capabilities, not something most of us should fear.