Cassette Recorder to GOLDWAVE - No Control {Pegging}

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 28 Oct 2002 1:40 pm

I have a version of GoldWave and it records CD's and anything else already on the pc.

But I'm having a big problem with a JVC dual cassette recorder getting recorded to GW.

I'm using line-in [not microphone in] to send the cassette to the pc. Even with everything shut off and muted on the Master Volume panel, the signal is totally pegged-out on GW. There is a volume control within GW's device manager dialogue, and this too, has no affect on the pegging.

So I installed a Radio Shack stereo sound mixer[SSM-60]and this seemed to gain a little control; but NOT really. The fader only had to be moved about an 1/8" from "off" and BAM-
max pegging again.

I also have a version of Cakewalk and the cassette deck records OK to Cakewalk. The trouble with CW, tho, is that you can save your files in CW's odd-ball formatts. There are 2 MIDI formatts in CW and I did save one file in this formatt. But this midi file must be some oddball one, too, because BIAB
will not recognize it as a legit midi.

What I'm trying to do is burn a CD from a cassette source. I have to get this cassette into a WAVE or MP3 file for ADAPTEC to recognize and thus burn the CD. BIAB can convert midi to wave. GoldWave is really the better program, as it will convert any signal to WAVE or MP3.

Is anyone out here familiar with GOLDWAVE? I'm sure I'm missing some simple button - check-off, somewhere. Sure would appreciate any input. Thanks all.

ChipsAhoy

Everett Cox · Post by **Everett Cox** » 28 Oct 2002 9:21 pm

Chip-- Which 'puter are you using (which system)??? Can you double-click the speaker icon in the system tray and get a mixer window to open? Or a mixer that was provided by the soundcard? In either case, there *should* be a fader control to set the level for 'line in' as well as others. You might have to control the 'stereo out', 'mix out' or whatever else it is called on your machine. Lastly, I use a program called TotalRecorder that does a pretty good job, is not expensive ($12) and records whatever your soundcard 'hears'. --Everett

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 29 Oct 2002 12:23 pm

Hello Everett,
I'm using the HP pc with Windows ME. The
sound card for playback is set for [OEM] Crystal WDM Audio and Roland Virtual Sound Canvas for record.

There are nine controllers on the mixer dialogue box for Crystal Audio;

They are, left to right: Master Volume - Wave - SW Synth - CD Player - Microphone - Line In - Aux - Video - Crystal 3D. On the back of the are LINE OUT, LINE IN, MICROPHONE IN. The 9 controllers all have faders, L-R balance, and mute. This mixer panel is what they call the PLAYBACK PANEL.

In OPTIONS, there is also a RECORD PANEL
and it has 8 controllers. They are: Stereo
Mix - Mono Mix - CD Player - Microphone - Line In - Aux - Video - Phone Line. The pc lets you check off only the controllers you want to deal with, so that when you bring up both panels, only those pertinent controllers will appear.

Maybe I should uninstall GOLDWAVE and then reinstall. I don't have a GW cd, as I downloaded the full version from the web. Not sure if I still know my registration #.

Joel Glassman · Post by **Joel Glassman** » 4 Nov 2002 11:46 am

Chip--let me clarify something.
You can't save an audio file as midi.
Midi files are basically an "instruction set" of codes to define music, generated by a keyboard, pickup or computer.
When Cakewalk saves an audio file, it is saving it as a "wave" file. It can play wave and midi files simultaneously, or save a midi file as a wave file. (Some folks are investigating wave to midi, but its only experimental.) Goldwave must have a record feature. Check the FAQ on their site: http://www.goldwave.com/faq.html#cdrecord

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I also have a version of Cakewalk and the cassette deck records OK to Cakewalk. The trouble with CW, tho, is that you can save your files in CW's odd-ball formatts. There are 2 MIDI formatts in CW and I did save one file in this formatt. But this midi file must be some oddball one, too, because BIAB
will not recognize it as a legit midi.

What I'm trying to do is burn a CD from a cassette source. I have to get this cassette into a WAVE or MP3 file for ADAPTEC to recognize and thus burn the CD. BIAB can convert midi to wave. GoldWave is really the better program, as it will convert any signal to WAVE or MP3.

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 5 Nov 2002 5:14 am

Thanks Joel,
after I posted, I realized my thinking error on MIDI. I am aware that it is only information and not 'real' music.

I still have the pegging problem with GW. I've talked with a few GW "techs" but not much help here, either.

one of them did mention not using Roland VSC
for the recording side of GW, and instead using Crystal Audio, which is the HP's soundcard and is on the playback side of GW.

I changed both record/playback to Crystal Audio, but still no dice.

Rob Hamilton · Post by **Rob Hamilton** » 5 Nov 2002 2:34 pm

I've used GoldWave to record cassettes (and LPs) and have not had this problem. I use Win98SE so I'm not sure the dialogs are the same for the volume controls. But on Win98 I double-click on the little speaker in the system tray in the lower right corner, get a dialog called "Volume Control" with several sliders. But these are all for playback, I believe. Under "Options", choose "Properties", then in the Properties dialog, in the box that says "Adjust volume for" click the button labeled "Recording". Press OK, and then you can adjust the "Line-in" recording volume.

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 5 Nov 2002 4:10 pm

Thanks Rob, I've been over the OPEN VOLUME CONTROLS and have checked and rechecked those options in the 'record' mode, many times over, but to no avail. I appreciate your effort.

Chip

Rob Hamilton · Post by **Rob Hamilton** » 6 Nov 2002 2:51 pm

Chip, you also mentioned that the sound card is set up to use Roland Virtual Sound Canvas for record. Does Sound Canvas have its own dialog of adjustments?