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Fred Murphy
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Indianapolis, In. USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 6:42 am |
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Being new to the computer era, I didn't know that there were three types of CDs,until I got a new catalog in the mail that said you should only use digital audio CDs for your music. I had been using CDRs. I had noticed that I would have a skip problem occasionaly, and I had a couple lose a bit of their covering while using them in my car. The CD gets extremely hot in my car, and I don't notice this at home. I was not aware that there might be a problem with the type of CD. My question is, why, when I burn a Digital Audio CD, using Music Match Jukebox, I cannot play it on the CD player? It will play fine on my computer. I have tried the program from Adaptec also using the (Create a CD playable on all CD players) to burn it, but it still did not make it work on my regular CD player. Does the Digital Audio CD require a formatting program or are my CDs bad or what should I try next. Thanks in advance.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 8:01 am
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I record all of my music CD's with generic CD's that I buy at Sam's Wholesale Club. I burn them with Adaptec Easy CD creator 4 Deluxe, using "track at a time" option. Works great and works on all the various CD players that they have been played on.
The "music" CD's are not any different other than a royalty is included in the price of the CD and they must be used on standalone CD music burners.
When you burn CD's with your computer, the CD burning process must not be interrupted or droputs or data errors on the CD can occur. Make sure you turn off programs such as virus scanners, etc when you do a CD burn. DO NOT have any other programs running (or running in the background) when you burn the CD.
I'm not sure about the compatibility problem. It has to be how you are burning the CD's. Follow my suggestions, above, and see what happens.
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John Gretzinger
From:
Canoga Park, CA
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 8:07 am
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Fred -
You are already doing the most important thing, that is using CDRs. DO NOT use CD-RWs. Computers will read music recorded on either, but stand alone CD players like you have in your car will not.
CDRs use what is termed a closed file system. Meaning that when the initial recording is completed, the "system" or CD is marked as being closed, no longer modifiable. CD-RWs on the other hand stay open so that you can re-record on them. This indication is what keeps them from playing in your car or on most home machines. Some of the latest home machines will read either kind, but that is a fairly new deal.
Follow Jack's advice and you should be fine.
jdg
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 9:04 am
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Hi Jack, Great information!.
You say close all programs.
Do I have to close "Windows" and EVERYthing? Phone Line? Etc.? What can I leave running?
How do I close ALL the unknown programs running? Lots of Questions, I know. I would appreciate your input on this. Thanks...al |
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David Pennybaker
From:
Conroe, TX USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 9:29 am
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Bring up Device Manager. (ctrl-alt-delete -- ONCE only).
Hit End Task for all processes except Explorer and Systray.
Also, disable any screen-saver you may have running.
You can now start your burning software.
Note: with a SCSI-based CD-R and CD (and HDD if you're using it), you can generally get away with doing some other tasks (like web-surfing, email, etc) while burning.
With IDE-based systems (which is what most have), you can sometimes get away with it. But not always.
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David Pennybaker
From:
Conroe, TX USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 9:33 am
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Forgot to add this:
I use Adaptec EZCD Creator (version 3.something). I've heard some horror stories with version 4.x, though others have no problems.
I have experienced a few glitches on CD-R's I've burned, and it's always been when it's really hot in the car. After it's cooled down, it's not a problem. I'm guessing this is a quality-control problem with that particular CD-R disk.
Also, some CD players can be particular with different brands of CD-R's. Kodak Gold's are supposed to be good. I've always used Silver/Blues by Ritek (Memorex uses them, too). So, you might want to try a few different brands, just to see if you can tell a difference.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 10:57 am
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Al, what I do when I want to burn a CD, is to close McAfee Virusscan and disable the screen saver. I don't have a lot in my startup other than what is really necessary so just disabling those items is all that's needed for my PC.
As far as Adaptec, I know there have been reports of some compatibility problems with some CD burners (Sony USB is one that I know about). However, it runs well with my internal IDE Hewlett Packard 8250i CD Drive.
I have a friend with a new Compaq that came with a CD Burner (no name on the front of it) and the Adaptec V4 works good with that unit. |
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Fred Murphy
From:
Indianapolis, In. USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 11:28 am
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| What I was refering to about the CDs, was that I too have been using generic recordable CDs. After reading the article, I went to the computer stores and checked out the CDs available. There were three different types. There were the standard or generic CDrs that say (recordable) under the name, the CD-RWs, and the CDrs with the (Digital Audio) name directly under the Disc name. The catalog stated that you should use this type of CD when you are making a music recording. These are the ones I bought and tried to make work. The common recordable CDrs record alright. Has anyone else noticed this different type of CD. It is a CDr, but has the digital audio name added. |
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Fred Murphy
From:
Indianapolis, In. USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 11:34 am
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| Also for you Jack, do you feel that the common CDr will be just as good a quality for long time service as the music CD? Also should I use the music CD to burn a master CD from the Roland VS 1680, and if I do use it, do you think it will be compatible to use to make copies with? |
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David Pennybaker
From:
Conroe, TX USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 11:40 am
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Fred,
My understanding of the digital audio music CD's is this: They cost more, because they have added some royalty costs to the media. How this gets distributed, I haven't a clue.
I don't believe there is any difference in them from regular CD-Rs. If there is, it's only noticeable by those stereo-system CD-Rs that have come out. The ones where you don't need a computer to do the burning (it's all built-in). Perhaps they check for this particular type of CD-r, but I doubt it.
On the PC, the plain vanille CD-R's will work just fine.
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 12:33 pm
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Standard computer data CD-R's will not play in most DVD players. They look for the MUSIC CD formatting. I buy data CD-R's 50 at a time and use my comuter's CD-R drive to keep the price low and have had excellent results copy CD to CD(disk at a time) or LP records to CD (track at time). My dad has a stand alone deck that requires MUSIC CD's and they play everywhere. If you put a DATA CD-R in your DVD player it won't even recognize it as a disk. In my living room I bought a DVD player to double as a CD palyer so it can be a hassle.
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Graham
From:
Marmora, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 9 Oct 2000 5:18 pm
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Fred:
In order for an audio cd to be played in a machine other than your computer, it must be "closed" when the recording is finished. Using Adaptec's CD Creator gives you the choice of closing the "session", "leaving the session open", or "closing the cd".
By choosing "close the cd", you should then have no problem using it in your home or car stereo or your computer.
I also just use regular CDR cd's for all my recording work, data or audio.
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Fred Murphy
From:
Indianapolis, In. USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2000 7:56 am
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| Thanks to everyone for the advice. I guess if there is no quality difference I would be foolish to pay the extra price for the Audio CDs. I was just concerned that the Digital Audios were of a better quality since they cost three times as much. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 10 Oct 2000 8:32 am
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Fred, in many items you pretty much get what you pay for, but unfortunately in blank CD's price is not an indication of quality.
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