Gary Steele
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Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2006 3:03 pm |
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EDIT, THIS CABINET IS 4/ 10 CABINET NOT A 4/ 12 NO WONDER NO ONE WANTED IT. WITH 4 12'S IT WOULD BREAK YOUR BACK. I have a nice peavey road case type cabinet. What kind of speaker or speakers would you put in one. Some say a 15 inch some say two 12's others say 4 10's. Anyone tried all these different ways. Maybe use this on one side and a 15in Black widow on the other. I wondered if it would be much difference????
Gary. [This message was edited by Gary Steele on 04 May 2006 at 12:54 PM.] |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 26 Apr 2006 5:59 pm
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I've tried all these combinations with pedal steel, and the same amp. It's not about how much air is moved, that affects the volume, but not the tone. Four 10s may move as much air as a single 15, but the voice will be different. I hear the difference more in the highs and mids than in the lows. 10s have thinner highs, with a crystal goblet type chimey or pingy sound. A 15's highs sound thicker and more sax-like. A 15's mids have a throaty, authoritative baritone sound. 12s sound somewhere in between 10s and 15s. Maybe a 10-band equalizer could reshape the frequency spectrum so these all sound about the same; but with a typical 3-knob guitar amp EQ, it can't be done. Turning up the bass on 10s, or turning up the treble on a 15 does not do it.
It is very much a matter of personal preference. The guitar player in my blues band sounds great on his Tele through the 10s of his Vibrolux, and
Robert Cray sounds great through his 10s. But like most steelers, I prefer steel through one or more 15s. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it is a solidbody instrument with no neck joint, and only a bridge pickup. A 15" with steel just has a fuller, organ-like tone, and the highs are nice and thick.
Also, the idea of using multiple small speakers to move the same amount of air as a large speaker sort of misses the point I think. The impedance of an 8 ohm 10" and an 8 ohm 15" are all the same; but the efficiencies are different in different parts of the spectrum. The 10 is more efficient for the highs, but the 15 is more efficient for the lows, where the amp has to work harder. A Twin is designed to push two 8 ohm speakers (4 ohm load total). Two 12" 8 ohm speakers will sound a little different tonewise from a single 4 ohm 15", but not too different volumewise. But if you plug in two 8 ohm 15" speakers, there is a huge difference in tone, volume, and projection. But the amp sees pretty much the same load. You are using the electronics more efficiently - it's like having a bigger amp - it really opens things up.
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Student of the Steel: Zum uni, Fender tube amps, squareneck and roundneck resos, tenor sax, keyboards
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