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Topic: New Fender Steel King amp |
Ken Byng
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Southampton, England
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Posted 16 Jul 2004 4:29 am |
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Because of Peavey's reluctance to make the Nashville 1000 available to us steelers over the pond in Europe, I am really keen for the new amp from Fender to make its way over. The Big E has been very complimentary in his post on the Events and Announcements page. This will be my first chance to buy a new steel amp from the USA with a 15" speaker - can't wait.
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 16 Jul 2004 6:21 am
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FWIW: there are more Nash1000s bein'played on in Europa than you would think Ken
some run on 110v w: an external transformer and some have the 200v modification
Peavey did'nt get these amps available to us here in Europa because of the cost of EEC certification but that don't mean we can't get'em over and use'em
i believe the Nash 112 is available in Europa
BTW: i was a Fender user since the beginning
and i do love the Twin, Bassman410, Concert and some others
Now let's not hold our breath waitin' on the Steel King to be available here cause we'll be purple and dead ![This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 16 July 2004 at 07:22 AM.] |
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Mike Brown
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Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2004 8:19 am
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From our 30 years of experience in designing and manufacturing the finest steel guitar amplifiers, safety certifications and tariffs attached to such a product for export markets have prohibited us from distributing the Nashville 1000/Session 2000 series in overseas markets. However since July 2003, we have shipped many of the Nashville 112 amps to these overseas markets.
Regardless of the rumors that are started concerning the marketing of the Nashville 1000, we do wish to sell to other markets. But, the obstacle has been the stiff tariffs and fees, which would increase the price of these products to a rate that is higher than what the consumer should have to pay, or is willing to pay. This increase is strictly due to certifications and tariffs, not production costs of the amps. We know this from past experiences.
Since all of mankind continues to get older and "closer to the ground", we all look for lighterweight musical instruments. This is the number one comment/complaint from steelers. We will continue to find ways to accomplish a lighterweight product as do some steel guitar manufacturers, and without sacrificing quality.
Until some of these obstacles are "eased" or removed, it will be tough to introduce new technology to countries that provide barriers for imported goods into their countries. The United States is very lucky to have safety agencies that test products safety reasons as well. It's ironic that some countries are not required to comply with product safety regulations for their own population, but require countries that import products to their country to pay the stiff tariffs.
As I have always stated, the best in Peavey products yet to come. By the way, I understand that the Fender SteelKing weighs 65lbs. and uses 30 year old technology.
Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation
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Ken Byng
From:
Southampton, England
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Posted 16 Jul 2004 12:03 pm
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Mike - while I understand what you are saying, the fact that many people have bought the Nashville 1000 through 'the back door' and modified them surely shows that the demand was/is there.
Please explain again to me how Peavey is prepared to export the 112 to Europe (and there are those of us who are not overly enamoured by the tone of that amp) when the Nash 1000 was not a consideration.
I have been a Peavey user for 25 years - my Nash 400 is getting long in the tooth and would I would love to get a new PV. But I am not prepared to mess around with external transformers etc.
Fender have always found it worthwhile to invest in the European market via variable transformer outputs, and that is why I am keen to look over the new amp. As far as using old technology, I will refrain from responding to that one until I see the technical spec of the Steel King.
Regards KB |
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Steve Dodson
From:
Sparta, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 3 Oct 2005 10:44 pm
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| Well if its good enough for the Big E,what else is there left to say. |
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Keith Cordell
From:
San Diego
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Posted 4 Oct 2005 3:31 am
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| When it comes to amps, old technology ain't necessarily a bad thing. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 4 Oct 2005 3:53 am
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I played through a Steel King at Bobbe Seymour's back in August - using a D-10 PP Emmons. I wasn't impressed with the sound, although I left it the way they had it set.
It was a clean sound but was no where close to the old Fender tube sound and not in the same class with the Peavey's either. |
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Mike Brown
From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 4 Oct 2005 7:36 am
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| Ken, the Nashville 1000 and Session 2000 models are designed using a switching power supply(spell lightweight). The Steel King weighs 65lbs.. The Nashville 112 amp uses conventional analog circuitry which was already being used in one of our keyboard amplifiers that was already certified. That's how this was accomplished. |
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James Quackenbush
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Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 4 Oct 2005 12:52 pm
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When it comes to amps, old technology ain't necessarily a bad thing.
Mike,
I gotta go with Keith on this one.... Peavey makes a good amount of $$ using "old technology" in their tube amps that are made for guitarists .... Probably a LOT more money than any of the pedal steel amps that they make ... Let's just say that the Steel King does a great job of what it was meant to do, and the Nashville 112 does a great job of what it's suppose to do .... They both have their place in pedal steel land !!......Jim
PS....No disrespect meant ....You're the best rep a pedal steel player could have !!.... |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 4 Oct 2005 1:11 pm
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In response to comments posted here,I feel in my opinion that "old technology" is not old per say. There are collectors who will pay a high price for "old technology" true and in the interim,even players of today such as myself prefer what is reffered to as "old technology" I still prefer the sound of that "old technology" with no disrespect for Peavey who manufacturers a superior and quality product with great support for their dealers and customers I would venture to say that Peavey is tops in that category.
Many times "old is gold" that old saying applies here..in many fields automobiles etc etc, "they dont make em like they used to"
How many times have you heard that these days?
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Ken Byng
From:
Southampton, England
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Posted 4 Oct 2005 2:43 pm
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My original post is a few months old now and the Peavey 112 has had time to find its place in the European market place. I am not sure that this amp has taken off over here or not.
Its horses for courses and while I don't dislike the sound of the 112 at smaller gigs, for me it just doesn't compete with my Nashville 400 in a larger venue. My Nashville 400 has been the epitome of reliability, and I pair it up sometimes when I play open air gigs with my Peavey Jazz Classic amp. The Peavey name has become synonymous with reliability and I hope the the Fender SK matches this.
Those players in the UK who have bought the Steel King like it because it sounds completely different to the Peavey amps which have very pronounced mid range. However it also remains to be seen whether the Fender speaker can match the Black Widow for longevity. That is a hard act to follow.
All I ask Mike is that when Peavey develop any future steel amps - please don't forget us guys across the pond. |
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