Peterson 11 tuner for steel guitar?

Grayson Joe · Post by **Grayson Joe** » 7 Feb 2005 11:24 am

those of you who are useing this tuner for the steel guitar, i need your coments on how it fits the steel guitar tuneing before i buy one. thanks

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Joe Grayson,Monticello ms

Jennings Ward · Post by **Jennings Ward** » 7 Feb 2005 11:38 am

BEST TUNER ON THE MARKET FOR THE MONEY..I HAVE A SAM AND LOVE IT....NEVER HAD ONE BETTER..... JENNINGS..........

I PLAY STEEL FOR THE BEAUTIFULL SOUND OF IT.. I MIGHT ADD,,,IN TUNE,,,,WITH THE PETERSON TUNER......

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Grayson Joe · Post by **Grayson Joe** » 7 Feb 2005 12:21 pm

Thanks Jennings for your comment.Who has the best price on them out there?

Larry Robbins · Post by **Larry Robbins** » 7 Feb 2005 6:50 pm

You just cant go wrong with my good friend
Bobbe Seymour at steel guitar Nashville
www.steelguitar.net great prices,great service,great guy and the prettiest gals this side of Heaven.

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Jennings Ward · Post by **Jennings Ward** » 7 Feb 2005 7:25 pm

LOOK IN THE EQUIPMENT AND ACCESSOIES SECTION OF THIS FORUM, THAT IS WHERE I GOT MINE..$ 185.00 INCLUDED SHIPPING . MINE IS THE SAM VERSION, THE MOST EXPENSIVE 250. DOLLAR ITEM IN MF CATALOG......JENNINGS

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Scott Appleton · Post by **Scott Appleton** » 7 Feb 2005 8:22 pm

The Sam is the Jam .. Get one .. Be happy.
The price from zzounds aint bad. Bobby's
shop is a good way to go. Just get one.
They cost some money but worth every penny.

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Larry Hamilton · Post by **Larry Hamilton** » 7 Feb 2005 8:38 pm

Best tuner I have used in 35+ years. Real simple to use, especially if you use the Newman tuning charts since they are pre-programed into the tuner meaning no more charts to carry around or try to memorize. You can even program your own temperments into it(which I don't do). good investment in equipment.

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Keep pickin', Larry

Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 7 Feb 2005 9:53 pm

There are two tuners by Peterson that have steel temperments.
I find the V-SAM better suited to my oddball tunings. Tuneup or touchup, it is quick and easy.

Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 7 Feb 2005 9:55 pm

There are two tuners by Peterson that have steel temperments.
I find the V-SAM better suited to my oddball tunings. Tuneup or touchup, it is quick and easy.

Steve Stallings · Post by **Steve Stallings** » 8 Feb 2005 11:25 am

I ordered one from music123.com They have some new B-stock ones for $170.

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God Bless,
Steve Stallings

Steve Stallings · Post by **Steve Stallings** » 8 Feb 2005 11:36 am

BTW...
The VII is identical to the SAM except for the following:
It does not include a metronome.
It does not have a built in speaker.

Other than these two things, it is the same tuner and is completely programable.

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God Bless,
Steve Stallings

Steve Stallings · Post by **Steve Stallings** » 8 Feb 2005 11:55 am

Actually there are a couple other slight differences which have no significant bearing on steel tuning. Here is the FAQ answer from the Peterson website. The VSAM does not have a thru output which to me is a ding.

What are the differences between the VS-II and the V-SAM?
Selectable temperament roots
VS-II=No V-SAM=Yes (12)

Concert A range
VS-II=433-447Hz V-SAM=410-490Hz

Tone generator
VS-II=Yes (Passive) V-SAM=Yes (active - built-in speaker)

Metronome
VS-II=No V-SAM=Yes

Headphone jack>br> VS-II=No V-SAM=Yes

Thru jack
VS-II=Yes V-SAM=No

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God Bless,
Steve Stallings

[This message was edited by Steve Stallings on 08 February 2005 at 11:57 AM.]

John Fabian · Post by **John Fabian** » 8 Feb 2005 12:32 pm

Given the tone change that occurs when using the thru output on the VSII the lack of it is not a factor.

Best hookup would utilize one of the 2 outputs on a LDR or one of the effects loop sends (preferably the post loop) on the PV Nashville series amps. These hookup buffer the signal so you do not get a tonal shift.

As an alternative you could use a Peterson strobostomp in TRUE BYPASS mode if you simply must have a thru output.

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John Fabian
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Steve Stallings · Post by **Steve Stallings** » 8 Feb 2005 4:47 pm

John,
I've not received my tuner yet so I've not had a chance to try it. The website for Peterson specifically claims that the VSII has a true bypass mode.

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God Bless,
Steve Stallings

Charlie Moore · Post by **Charlie Moore** » 8 Feb 2005 4:50 pm

I bought a VSll,i tune plus & minus and i'm in tune,for a change.....Charlie......

[This message was edited by Charlie Moore on 08 February 2005 at 04:53 PM.]

Jimmie Martin · Post by **Jimmie Martin** » 8 Feb 2005 4:52 pm

please pardon a dumb question but is the vs 2 preset for e-9th and c-6th?

Jimmie Martin · Post by **Jimmie Martin** » 8 Feb 2005 4:55 pm

larry hamilton is the one you are talking about the sam or vs 2? which is best

Charlie Moore · Post by **Charlie Moore** » 8 Feb 2005 4:57 pm

No Robert but you can program it to whatever you want, it has 2 tempered tuning setting's p1 & p2,just ck. the owner's manual...
Charlie.......

Jimmie Martin · Post by **Jimmie Martin** » 8 Feb 2005 5:00 pm

okeedokee

Steve Stallings · Post by **Steve Stallings** » 9 Feb 2005 8:33 am

please pardon a dumb question but is the vs 2 preset for e-9th and c-6th?

Not a dumb question at all...

Actually, according to the Peterson website, the VS2 comes preprogrammed with E9 and C6 tempered tunings PLUS two user defined tempered tunings. From reading on their site, these are the Newman tunings. I'm looking forward to mine arriving just to check it out. My son is always stealing my TU12 for his guitar and my Zen On tuner has gotten a bit erratic with age. Of course, I could always just go back to a tuning fork!

From the Peterson Website:
As the newest model in a totally new generation of tuners, Peterson introduces the "VS-II Virtual Strobe Tuner", a compact, battery-powered tuner with unprecedented bang-for-the-buck features. It boasts an accuracy of an astounding 0.1 cent, more than 20 times as accurate as current LED/needle display tuners, thanks to its real-time high definition TV-style graphic strobe display.

The VS-II features a fully adjustable Concert A reference, cent offset (programmable to 0.1 cent!) , a neat drop-tune and capo tuning assistant called FTS (Fret Transposition System), and comes with tempered tuning presets, some of which have never before been included in a tuner. Fans of the preceding VS-1 Virtual Strobe will be familiar with the GTR temperament, which sweetens a guitars tuning, the VS-II adds â€œBASâ€ which does the same for basses, and for the first time ever, E9 and C6 tempered presets for pedal steel and lap steel guitar.

The "Bass Shift" feature allows effortless tuning of acoustic or electric bass up to two octaves below a normally tuned low B on a 5 string instrument. The VS-II is also programmable; there are two user programmable temperaments, which can be used to store preferred offsets in cents for instruments outfitted with the Buzz Feiten Tuning System or any other custom tunings.

The VS-II naturally contains the revolutionary (patented) Virtual Strobe TechnologyTM first introduced in the VS-1 tuner plus a new, brighter, high-contrast display and full user programmability. This tuner is also perfect for setting up intonation on guitars and basses, and will make its own price back in saved tech charges.

To top it all off, the included DC adapter is the sleek "smart power" type and works anywhere in the world regardless of voltage standards! ~

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God Bless,
Steve Stallings

John Fabian · Post by **John Fabian** » 9 Feb 2005 11:40 am

Steve,

The VSII definitely changes the tone if you leave it inline and use the thru output. I understand the claim but the "real world" testing we've done indicates otherwise.

Again if you use one of the 2 methods for hooking it up I described, no problemo, Dude.

Definitely, strongly recommend one of the 3 Petersons as it is the last tuner you'll ever need.

Steve Stallings · Post by **Steve Stallings** » 10 Feb 2005 6:53 am

John,
I didn't realize y'all were Peterson dealers until after I responded. Of course, I now feel like an idiot

(Nothing new there!) My tuner is being delivered today. I'm looking forward to visiting with the Carter folks at the TSGA and maybe picking a spell. See you there!

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God Bless,
Steve Stallings

Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 10 Feb 2005 8:25 am

The way I read the web page info, the VS-II does not have the thru that will not change the tone. It does have a thru, I have not tried it. The Strobo Stomp has the true thru, but there is a setting in the battery compartment you have to set.
If you ever have a problem there is no service any better then Petersons. I use the E9 presets on my universal, but find I have to tune the beats out of the B's.

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Steve Stallings · Post by **Steve Stallings** » 14 Feb 2005 12:51 pm

I got mine and I am really impressed. It does slightly color the sound as John pointed out. No problemo, I just don't keep it in the signal path. I am guessing that this is the last tuner I will ever need. It is really cool for doing setups on regular guitars too!

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God Bless,
Steve Stallings