Two Nashville 112's

Jeff Lampert · From: queens, new york city

I'm a huge fan of the N112. I also have the N1000, but I've found I've been using the N112 on a big percentage of my gigs because of it's great sound and portability. In those cases where it's a large outdoor arena and I won't be miked, or on a very large stage where I want a high stage volume, I am considering purchasing a second N112. Has anybody already used two N112's and how does that compare to a single N1000, sound and power-wise? Can you stack one on top of the other or is there an issue with ventilation? How would you set them up on stage? I've never done a two amp set-up so I can use any suggestions you have. Thanks in advance to all responses. .. Jeff

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Bill Moore · From: Manchester, Michigan

Jeff, rather then buy a new amp, why not just try the NV1000, as half of the amp duo. I suspect that it will work very well with the NV 112. I've used a Bandit 75 and NV 400 together and they sounded fine. Also have used two Session 400's with good results. I use a ProfexII or Tubefex, with a line to each amp, but you could use another delay effect. The idea is to have just reverb on one amp, and the effects on the other. Seperating the amps a few feet will make the sound seem "bigger", which is the object, I guess. Why not just set them up at home and get used to the sound.

Mark van Allen · From: Watkinsville, Ga. USA

Just got home form a large outdoor venue where I used My 1-12 in stereo with my Nashville 1000. Sounds fantastic, and surprisingly not much radical difference in settings between the two to get a good balance. They really got it right with the 1-12.

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Jeff Lampert · From: queens, new york city

It's just that the N1000 weighs a lot. If I'm gonna take two amps, I'd rather take two N112's I think. Anyway, I haven't bought another N112 yet, I'm just looking for some people's experiences using two N112's.

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[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 10 September 2004 at 08:48 PM.]

John Bechtel · From: Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.

If you have a Volume pedal w/(2)-output Jacks, you could run (1) cord to each Amp. and set the Amp.-Controls identical. Then you can try to set the amps about 8’ apart for greater sound-seperation or, if that's not possible; you can set them side-by-side or stack them or place them anywhere you wish! If your Volume pedal has only (1) output-jack, you can purchase a (Y)-Adaptor Item #274–892 from Radio Shack and plug it into the output-jack of your V-Pedal, thus giving you (2) outputs. (1 to each Amp.) That's almost the only way to get High-Gain input to both amps.! You could also plug the (Y)-Adaptor into the High-Gain of Amp. #1 and then patch from there to Amp. #2, but; I think the Adaptor into the V-Pedal output is most practical. The Adaptor sticking out from the Amp-Face could easily get bumped and cause breakage to something.

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John Bechtel · From: Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.

BTW:
You can take the afore-mentioned steps using any (2)-Amplifiers. Try it with the (2) that you already own! This will give you an idea what to expect. If you use (1) N-1000 & (1) N-112, you'll probably have to cut the volume on the N-1000 slightly to match the N-112. As for EQ, set each one as you normally do and then blend the two-sounds with the Volume-controls. You might lik the sound of (1)-15” & (1) 12” together! Good luck¡

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Roger Rettig · From: Naples, FL

Jeff

I've worked with my 1000 and my 112 in tandem and it sounded very good indeed. I had wondered if the bigger amp would have sounded warmer than the little guy, but they complemented each other perfectly.

I agree with you about the weight issue, and I have a second 112 coming soon - when a situation arises where two amps can be justified, I'll be interested to see how they perform. I expect they'll be more than adequate, and the 1000 may never leave the house again!

I'll let you know....

Roger R.

Pete Burak · From: Portland, OR USA

I took the reverb tank out of the back of my N112, and my Sarno Black Box lives in there now (good fit, but watch out for that magnetic field). I also store my 15" extension plug in strip back there.
So it's pretty close in weight to my Session 400 when moving it around, but it is still easier to manouver due to its size.
I run mine stereo with the Session 400 (I use an RV-3 for a fairly liberal touch of reverb and delay).
Steel>SGBB>Hilton V-ped>Boss MT2>Boss RV-3>Stereo to N112 and Session 400.
I'm concidering going with a SF Fender Deluxe Reverb in stereo with the N112.

I would think you could run the N112 pretty similar to a N1000, as they are the same preamp.

[This message was edited by Pete Burak on 11 September 2004 at 01:54 PM.]

Jeff Lampert · From: queens, new york city

Thanks for the responses everyone.

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Bobby Lee · From: Cloverdale, California, USA

Mike Brown let me play through a pair of them in the Peavey room at a steel show. My honest opinion is that they wouldn't cut it for medium to large outdoor gigs. They cannot be pushed to the point where it's uncomfortable (for me) to be right in front of them, and that's what those big gigs require.

Gabriel Aaron Wynne · From: Johnson Valley, CA

Jeff, I think that would be a great idea. I have one myself, and have often thought about getting a second to run in stereo. I think they are incredibly loud, and sound much better than the Nashville 1000. I've run the 112 on big outside stages and in little rooms and it always does the trick. Before buying one, I was told that it would not be loud enough, but it's loud as hell, and could defiantly ruin someone's hearing if one was into that kind of thing. . . The problem with the 112 is the price. At around $500 each, why not go ahead a purchase a stereo steel system where you have the convince of your amp section right at your finger tips, and lighter portability with 12 or 15 inch cabinets. I've often thought about getting a second 112, but it would be almost as costly to move on a stereo steel set up. I also think that the tank reverb on the Nashville 400/1000 and 112 sucks balls. With the Stereo Steel set up, you already have to run your own verb. . . with the 112, it's just another thing to carry around if you don't use it.

Mike Brown · From: Meridian, Mississippi USA

Hello Gabriel,
I believe that if you search the electronics section of the Forum, you will find many posts that I've written, explaining that the Nashville 112 was intenionally targeted as a low level, in home rehearsal amplifier. But, when one of our customers purchase a Nashville 112, they are at liberty to use the product to their descretion and the overwhelming response has been that the amplifier(even at 80 watts) provides the sound and power for many steelers for their gigs. What can we say but, thanks for purchasing the Nashville 112.

The reverb has also been praised, so I'm not sure what you don't like about it. But, not everybody will like the 112. It's the same 3-spring reverb pan and circuit that we used in the Nashville 400. I'd like to hear your comments about this and would appreciate it. I welcome your input.

Mike Brown
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Gabriel Aaron Wynne · From: Johnson Valley, CA

Mike, I was not aware that the N112 was intended for practice use, but if it was indeed made for your home, why the million dollar price tag?
I've used practice amps on gigs before (Crate BX-15) that were under powered, and N112 amp is not a practice amp. (This one cost me $20 at a pawn shop)
The only reason I bought the 112 was because that my Ranger 212 has spend more time in the shop the last few months than it has on stage. (By the way, I replaced the 212's with 15" after the baffle board completely broke into pieces.)
As for the reverb I simply don't like the tone. You turn it on too low, and it's too dry, turn it up, and it's too wet. There doesn't seem to be a happy medium. I like a deep reverb without much trail, and I've never been able to get that from any Peavey tank reverb without it sounding like a soup sandwich. I've used everything from the N112,400,1000, to the Session 400 and Special Wedge 400. The only verbs I've been able to bear were Webb's 6-14 GP and Fender tank verbs.
It's nothing personal Mike, but the Peavey verbs manipulate the tone a bit too much for my ear, but this is only the word of one dude who plays at least 16 dates a month. (not including my practice time)

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Mike Brown · From: Meridian, Mississippi USA

Since I have been worked thousands of customers since 1985, the main complaint was that amplifiers were too heavy............and that is still the number one complaint today. So, I began polling our dealers, artist endorsers and steel players in general since these groups are using our products on a daily basis. The Nashville 112 weighs 42.5 pounds, sounds good and has all of the features that the above groups were requesting. However, the use of the 12" speaker of the Nashville 112 did leave some players skeptical(because the norm has been the use of a 15" speaker)............until they actually heard the amp. There has been no less than a 99:1 ratio of those in favor or who like the Nashville 112 amp.

As for the reverb, it's a matter of taste. No two players are going to like the same reverb, that's the reason these are not preprogrammed. No two players like the same settings on a digital reverb. It's subjective. Can we improve/change our reverb circuits? Yes. Can you provide input into this as to what you wish to hear from our amps and reverb circuits? I welcome your input and can be reached toll free at 1-877-732-8391.

Peavey can put together a rack system together for steel, but the total cost would be much more than the Nashville 112. I believe that Stereo Steel gives you a choice of digital processors when buying a system(or at least they used to), so apparently they have found the players have different tastes in their choice of effects.

Thanks,
Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

[This message was edited by Mike Brown on 15 September 2004 at 01:09 PM.]

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