Peavey:The best of both worlds??

John O Keeffe · Post by **John O Keeffe** » 23 Sep 2002 2:44 pm

I was looking at a Peavey "Ranger" 212 the other day.Are these a good amp for both Steel and Tele?

Is there a peavey amp designed for both?

I don't want to carry two amps!
JOHN

Post by **Joey Ace** » 23 Sep 2002 3:16 pm

I play Steel and Tele live thru a Nash 400.

I uses a Boss LS-2 A-B switch to select which.

I like a "Fender Tube Like" sound for the Tele, so it's goes thru a Line6 POD first, set to "Blackface Amp Model" then to the Nash.

A Match-Bro and RV-3 are the only effects between the Steel and the Nash.

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 24 Sep 2002 5:37 am

John, if 120 watts is enough power for your application, the Ranger 212 will work great for steel and guitar. I have the same situation as you, ie; carrying two amps to a gig and I tried using just the Ranger and it worked very well. Just be careful that you don't drive the 12" speaker with too much low end.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

Jeff Peterson · Post by **Jeff Peterson** » 24 Sep 2002 4:30 pm

At the beginning of our summer tour, CB got a Peavey Classic 50 2X12 to run his 'front line' guitar speakers, 2 cabs using his Tom Anderson Tele & Strat. I have been using a 4X10 for dates in town, quick set-up. I thought that sound was good, until I tried Clint's twin. The 12's are just great...so, I got myself one...That may answer your question. For both guitar and steel...the Peavey Classic 50 twin 12 is the tits...bigger stages either mic or get two, they will tone you to the bone. Don't let the 50 watt rating fool ya', this amp pumps...and being all tube, it reacts to your input in a really cool way. Besides the warmth, I notice the harmonics stand out nicely. This ain't no commercial, this is just good stuff without paying 'boutique' prices.
Mike, it's good to see you on here...the answer man...not many companies have that kind of interest, salute![This message was edited by Jeff Peterson on 25 September 2002 at 08:57 AM.]

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 25 Sep 2002 5:28 am

Thanks for your input Jeff. There's many approaches to preferences in amplifying a steel guitar. Curly Chalker actually used two of our Classic 50/212 amplifiers.

Steve Stallings · Post by **Steve Stallings** » 25 Sep 2002 11:43 am

Hey guys,
I'm curious. Were Curly's amps stock? Jeff are you using these stock? I did use my classic 50/212 at rehearsal a couple of times but didn't think it had enough power for live work. Of course when you stop and think about it, I use it all the time with my tele or strat live and it kicks butt! I've modified mine a little with Reverend Alltone speakers and JJ/Tesla tubes. I never thought about using two of them... but that sounds kind of cool.

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Steve Stallings
Bremond, Texas

John O Keeffe · Post by **John O Keeffe** » 25 Sep 2002 3:04 pm

Thanks all for the replies and e mails I kinda leaning towards the peavey "Ranger" at the moment.
If anyone has anymore suggestions or info I'd be delighted to hear them!
JOHn

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 30 Sep 2002 12:17 pm

I use a modified Delta Blues 15. it's great!

Bob Metzger · Post by **Bob Metzger** » 30 Sep 2002 1:10 pm

I always thought there were three worlds? (Hey, John B.!)[This message was edited by Bob Metzger on 30 September 2002 at 02:10 PM.]

John O Keeffe · Post by **John O Keeffe** » 30 Sep 2002 2:23 pm

Got a lend of a Peavey Renown 212 last weekend......Awesome sound!!

Jeff Peterson · Post by **Jeff Peterson** » 30 Sep 2002 7:32 pm

I've got a universal fix for my amps, and I got a few....all I do is use my PX-300 as an extension...whether it's a Nashville 1000, 400, Classic, or anything else, the PX-300 just plugs right into all of them and you get the sound of that amp....at 300 watts. Some of you guys I have talked to that have an old 400 that you love, and are trying to find another should get one of these PX's. You won't have to worry whether a used 400 will sound as good as the one you have...the PX will just give you alot more of the great sound you already have without changing your tone. You can use these things with just about any amp made. I can't recommend them highly enough....great idea. Light weight too.

Wayne Brown · Post by **Wayne Brown** » 1 Oct 2002 3:23 am

i play my tele, my tackimine, and my steel through my nashville 1000 and it's always been great

wayne

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 2 Oct 2002 5:31 am

Steve, yes Curly's amps were stock. He took them home from the Peavey Nashville office. All products at our Nashville, Tennessee office were stock items.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

Matt Martin · Post by **Matt Martin** » 2 Oct 2002 7:28 am

Hey Jeff, What is a PX-300??

Jeff Peterson · Post by **Jeff Peterson** » 2 Oct 2002 8:52 am

It's a powered 15" speaker cab. Kinda' like a Nashville 1000 without the preamp and reverb tank.

Matt Martin · Post by **Matt Martin** » 2 Oct 2002 3:50 pm

Jeff, Can you hook up other speaker cabs thru
the PX300??

Jeff Peterson · Post by **Jeff Peterson** » 2 Oct 2002 5:25 pm

Wow, anything more than an amp + PX-300 might be kinda' over-kill speaker wise. Because the PX receives its input from a preamp...if you use a patch bay, like a studio, the number of inputs could be limitless. In my wild prime in TX, I played through 2X15's(JBL) and 4X12's (EV) powered by 2 Crowns and a bunch of other stuff, including a Leslie model 900(twin high end horns). I loved it....some people who were at all those shows suffered hearing loss...but it never bothered me at all.
Yeah, there are many, many different ways to patch your gear, you could stack as many extensions as you need or want. It worked for Pete Townsend.

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 3 Oct 2002 6:38 am

Thanks Jeff. For those who don't know what a PX300 is or looks like. The same cabinet, 1501-4 ohm BW speaker and 300 watt digital power amp in the PX300 is identical to the Session 2000 and Nashville 1000, only without a preamp.

Check with your Peavey dealer for details. Or, here's a link from the Peavey website;
http://www.peavey.com/products/amps_mi/guitaramps/px300.cfm

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

Eddie Malray · Post by **Eddie Malray** » 3 Oct 2002 4:03 pm

FOR MIKE BROWN; Mike, Why does'nt Peavey try to build a steel amp thats has the size and ease of operation of the ole Session 400 but sounf like a Fender Twin Reverb. I don't think you could build the fast enough. I think you would have to dump the Black Widow and use a JBL or build one that sounds like it. Excuse the bad typing. JUST WONDERING.

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 4 Oct 2002 6:08 am

We don't see a reason to sound like someone elses amp. A Fender amp is fine for six string electric guitar, but why build a product that is already being marketed. It's probably the same reason that they haven't tried to duplicate a Nashville 1000 amp.

The reason the Peavey Black Widow exists is because of JBL speakers. We originally used a JBL in our Session 400 amps of the mid '70's, but JBL wouldn't warrantee their speakers when one failed in a steel guitar application. Therefore, Hartley Peavey set out to design a speaker that held up to the extreme low end and high end frequencies that a steel guitar is capable of producing.

As technology advances, we will be right there with it to further its advances. I've had discussions with a couple of pro players who inquired about steel tube amps, but one of the first points that was brought up was the weight of their own tube amps, which both players had modified by separating the amp from the speakers and placed in separate enclosures because the amp was too heavy. It's just a fact that a tube amp that has the power needed for live performances is probably going to be heavy or heavier than what the performer wishes to carry. However, our Transtube 112EFX and 212EFX models come really close in tube sound characteristics. These were designed with six string electric guitar use, but sound pretty good with a steel. Try it out at your Peavey dealer. Here is a link to our dealer locator;http://www.peavey.com/support/dealerlocator/

As for the size of the older Session 400, the Nashville 1000 is not but maybe an inch or so from those dimensions. Once you understand the "mid/shift" eq circuit of this amp, the whole concept makes perfect sense. You basically determine your settings by "hearing" them anyway and not by what number is on the faceplate, but it doesn't hurt to know what the numbers mean either. If you wish to call me toll free, I'll explain them to you or answer any question that you may have.

I can be reached toll free at 1-877-732-8391.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation
[This message was edited by Mike Brown on 04 October 2002 at 12:33 PM.]

Eddie Malray · Post by **Eddie Malray** » 4 Oct 2002 5:27 pm

For Mike Brown: Mike the reason I ask the question I did was because I like the Fender sound better. BUT--Peavey buils a more rugged and more powergul amp and the dependability and service of the Peavey co. is the best there is. I played through a Session 400 for seventeen years and never found the tone I like. I've owned several othe model Peavey amps and still did'nt find it. I know you can't push a Fender like you can a Peavey and the Fender falls short in other areas also. Thats the reason I thought it would be nice to have the best of both worlds and if anybody could do it Peavey could. As far as the speaker issue is concerned, I should just shut up. You know a lot more about them than I do so I'm sure you are right. THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY ' Eddie

Andy Greatrix · Post by **Andy Greatrix** » 4 Oct 2002 6:11 pm

Mike, wouldn't a tube preamp, with an effects loop coupled to a Peavey PX300, solve the problem? The more I read about the PX300, the more I would like to check one out when I get back to North America (Canada).[This message was edited by Andy Greatrix on 04 October 2002 at 07:28 PM.]

Larry Clark · Post by **Larry Clark** » 4 Oct 2002 7:26 pm

Mike, a while back you posted about a "promotion" involving the PX 300. Care to give us any details.
Secondly, how about bringing back the Ranger chassis and putting it in a cab with a 1501-4. Thanks