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Topic: Line Direct Question ? |
Joseph V. Sapp
From: eastern shore, Md.
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Posted 27 Jun 2002 9:30 am
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This past weekend, I had the opportunity to open for a top named Nashville performer. I arrived as directed (actually 1/2 hr early. Got with security, got my pass and thought I was fairly well set. Till I started setting up. Out of my Derby into a profex ll, and split into a Org. Fender twin and a Nashville 400. The sound Eng. approached me and asked if I was able to run, "line Direct"? I had that option when I ran two Session 500's but sort of looked quite puzzled and his question. I've never did that with what I'm playing now, and saw he was starting to pull his hair out one strand at a time. Question ?
1. Can I do it ?
2. will it affect the sound I'm used to
hearing?
the choice was made just to mike everything and seemed to get the job done to both of our satisfactions. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Joseph
Derby SD-10 4X5, profex ll, Nashville 400, Fender twin, Lexicon MPX 100 |
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Bobby Lee
From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 27 Jun 2002 10:51 am
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This is exactly why I'm getting two microphones and stands to carry with me. My response will be "Yeah, direct from my mics!"
I don't like going direct from the preamp because you lose the sound of the power amp and speakers. The tone into the board would be substantially different from what I'm hearing. How do I know if I'm getting a tone I like, if the soundman isn't receiving what I'm hearing?
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Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (F Diatonic) Sierra Laptop 8 (D13), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6) |
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Matt Steindl
From: New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 27 Jun 2002 11:09 am
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If you have a spot monitor or a wedge right next to you, this is OK going direct, But the other month I had a gig on synth and the room was super loud and I didnt have a monitor on me. Needless to say, i was screwed. I couldnt hear myself at all. Luckily for me, I always bring some big headphones in my gig bag. I looked like some freakin DJ at a rave or something, playing keys w/ the cans on. It ended up sounding great though.
The bad thing w/ PSG, you guys seem to aways be set up in the back, away from the monitors, so I can see how hard it would be to hear. If you are used to being on top of your amp and feeling the speaker push air, direct is deffinately an alien way to play.
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Mattman in "The Big Sleazy"-:
S-10 Dekley, Suitcase Fender Rhodes, B-bender Les Paul
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Stephen Gambrell
From: Over there
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Posted 27 Jun 2002 11:22 am
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I'm with you, Bobby Lee. I never liked the sound of my 6-string running direct. This puts your tone in the hands of the soundman,instead of at your amp. Stick a 57 in front of that booger, and let 'er rip! |
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John Macy
From: Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 27 Jun 2002 11:48 am
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When I used to use combo amps on the road, I had Hughes and Kettner Red Boxes mounted in the back of the amp. They take the signal between the power amp and the speaker, and give you a direct there with an XLR, giving you the sound of the power amp, too. They work really great.
Peavey makes one also, I believe called the EDI, and I have have good things about them also. |
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Joseph V. Sapp
From: eastern shore, Md.
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Posted 28 Jun 2002 8:19 am
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Thanks Guys:
Thats sort of what I figured. I like splitting the sound into the nashville 400 and fender twin, I get the best of both worlds that way, and throw in the profex ll, and I guess I'm sort of spoiled rotten to that "Full" sound. The Venue was sort of large and I can see it from the Sound Eng. standpoint, so Bob, I guess I'll follow in your foot steps and go the same route. Now to find the right mics.!!!!!! this seems like a never ending battle. but sure is fun.
Might have to get a 2nd. job just to keep up. Bob,,when you found the right mics, drop me line. I sure would like to know your findings. Thanks all.
Joseph
Derby SD-10, Fender twin, Nashville 400, profex ll, Lexicon MPX 100 |
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Bobby Lee
From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 28 Jun 2002 9:26 am
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Joseph, there's a whole topic about my mic quest here. Bottom line: I ordered a pair of Shure SM-57's. They are durable, inexpensive, and an industry standard. Their characteristics are well understood by all soundmen. Total cost for the pair with stands and cables was under $250.
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Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (F Diatonic) Sierra Laptop 8 (D13), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6) |
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