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rpetersen


From:
Iowa
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2002 6:12 pm    
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How do you set a digital delay to do this - I have never tried it and just wondered if someone could give me a start on how to set it - I have an extra digital delay that I could set and just leave it for this.
Thanx.......

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Joey Ace


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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2002 6:30 pm    
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330 mSec, one repeat, if we're talking about the same thing.

I'm thinking Grady Martin on "May the Bird of Paridise" and Albert Lee on "Country Boy"
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Olli Haavisto


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Jarvenpaa,Finland
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2002 11:11 pm    
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One repeat at equal volume with the dry signal and the length (tempo dependant ) is a dotted eight note.

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rpetersen


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Iowa
Post  Posted 21 Apr 2002 4:46 am    
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Thanx.....I was trying it with too many repeats!
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Joey Ace


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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 21 Apr 2002 8:13 am    
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Here's an mp3 of the trick with a 6-String http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/bastrahle/delay/albertlee3.mp3

Try single note scales.

A good description is at http://members.aol.com/tstrahle/team/delay/delay.html

[This message was edited by Joey Ace on 21 April 2002 at 09:20 AM.]

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Pete Burak

 

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Portland, OR USA
Post  Posted 21 Apr 2002 8:56 am    
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Here's how I describe this to folks.
330ms (as described above, one delay of equal volume)
I use the thumb and middle finger, and pick as follows...
Put the bar on fret 3.
The count you will follow is:
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &, ect...
The thumb plays the number, the middle finger plays the &'s.
Pick this string pattern in an acending manner:
8 6 7 5 6 4 5 3
Then hit A+B and repeat.
I'd suggest a 1 4 1 5 chord arrangement to get going.
Once you get the feel for it, get a rhythm track for Foggy Mt. Breakdown or Rocky Top (or one of those type), set the delay for the tempo, and let'er rip!
Season to taste!

There is a good explaination of this by Buddy Emmons on the Q&A postion of the Buddy...Live in Denver CD.
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 21 Apr 2002 12:44 pm    
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Would you be interested in a video tape showing how to do this? Made simple? Let me know, I have several.


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Ernie Renn


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Brainerd, Minnesota USA
Post  Posted 22 Apr 2002 8:52 am    
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For single string runs, a single echo works best. Just make sure you have either an on/off switch or, for the rack users, a bypass footswitch.

If you're trying to play something like "Witches Brew", three repeats of diminishing value, (quieter) is better. On the "Nashville Bar Association" LP Buddy used an Echoplex for a portion of "Ghost Riders in the Sky". Mighty cool stuff!

BTW: The intro for "Witches Brew" is on the Tab from Buddy page. Listening to the audio and comparing it to the tab, you should be able to figure it out, (with a little putzing around.)

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Ernie

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Larry Bell


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Englewood, Florida
Post  Posted 22 Apr 2002 11:47 am    
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Something like this maybe???? (careful -- it's a big mp3 file)

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Jim Phelps

 

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Mexico City, Mexico
Post  Posted 23 Apr 2002 12:24 pm    
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Everybody here's got the right answer, but it's still kinda hard to set the right speed if you've never done it. I went to one of Albert Lee's clinics years ago and he explained it this way: The delay is set for one repeat, a beat and a half apart. He checks the delay time by muting the strings and picking a string (any string) on the downbeats, like 1,2,3,4,... when the echo delay is exactly the right speed, the muted picking seems to double in tempo. 1,2,3,4 sound like you're picking 1&2&3&4 and so on. This effect sounds great but watch out trying to do it live. If your drummer isn't a human metronome (or using one) and the beat gets even slightly off the speed, it can be an echo-trainwreck.
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Ernie Renn


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Brainerd, Minnesota USA
Post  Posted 24 Apr 2002 2:54 am    
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Try this one on: Buddy on Ghost Riders.

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Ernie

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[This message was edited by Ernie Renn on 24 April 2002 at 04:06 AM.]

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