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Topic: Fascinating History of The Real book, etc. |
Andy Volk
From: Boston, MA
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John McGann
From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 10 Aug 2006 12:13 pm
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Since the Hal Leonard licensed versions came out, I haven't seen any bootlegs, although I am sure they are out there from Bali to Kiev.
The original had some famous mistakes which have been canonized, too.
I bought mine from 'under the counter' at the Copy Cop on Boylston St. (still there!) in Boston in 1977. There were also guys selling them on the street in front of Berklee. "Get 'cher Real Books heah....." Guerilla publishing!
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[This message was edited by John McGann on 10 August 2006 at 01:14 PM.] |
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Stephan Miller
From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2006 12:30 pm
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Only five years ago my brother, who lives in a small town where the "Real Book" was unavailable, asked me to pick one up for him. No problem around the Wash. D.C. area, right? I was surprised to find how much retail paranoia exists around that publication. Many of the stores who carried lots of fakebooks didn't carry the Real Book (or wouldn't admit to it over the phone). When I finally tracked one down it was like "we'll do you a favor since you seem cool"-- definitely an under-the-counter vibe to the whole thing; made me feel like I oughta have it under the seat when I crossed the Maryland state line. Wonder if it's still technically illegal to distribute and sell...
--Steve |
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Charles Davidson
From: Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2006 12:31 pm
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I assume you guys are talking about FAKE books,Still have mine I bought about 45 years ago,still waiting for the music police to knock on my door,Too old now to give a damn.[It sure helped out on those lounge lizard jobs years ago. |
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Charles Davidson
From: Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2006 12:35 pm
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After reading the post above mine,maybe you're not talking about a Fake book,Sorry never heard of a real book. |
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Chip Fossa
From: Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 10 Aug 2006 1:30 pm
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I remember REAL BOOKS as a kid [youngster]. My parents got me a subscription to them. Like a kid's version of the book-of-the-month-club.
They covered everything. The Real Book of Magic; The Real Book of Chemistry; The Real Book of Science; even The Real Book of Music.
And on and on. That's what I remember of REAL books. I also remember FAKE books, too. |
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Ron Castle
From: West Hurley,NY
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Posted 10 Aug 2006 3:41 pm
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Actually, quite a few years before the Real Book came out the non-authorized 'Modern Jazz' & 'Modern Jazz book 2' were widely circulated and could be purchased in NYC at Roseland during & after the Local 802 meetings.
It was a mimeograph(?) of HAND WRITTEN jazz tunes but bound with plastic spiral & a yellow paper cover as opposed to the looseleaf fakes of the 40's & 50s like '1001 Standards' etc.
The Real book looked to me at the time as a compendium of MJ bk1&2.
You could also get them- if memory serves-
at the Jazzcenter record shop upstairs on 46(47?) St run by Mr. Mum- if he knew you!
I still have about 10 or 15 ragged pages from those books I got in early to mid 60's.
If I recall they were $20 each. |
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Jason Schofield
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Posted 10 Aug 2006 9:26 pm
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I still have my Real Book. I bought it about 15 years ago at a local music shop. I think it was $45 bucks. I still use it to this day. I have all the Hal Lenord versions too. I love how Metheny embraced that book. There are a couple of his tunes in there too..
I used to have a volume 2 also but I don't have it anymore. |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 1:15 am
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There's a forumite selling a CD-ROM with 12 different fake books scanned into Adobe pdf format, it's a fantastic tool, 3000+ songs. I'm sure he'll chime in if he wants to be found. Somebody here (?) also had it all posted free online - the point is you can load up your computer with all the files, and print out whatever you need. |
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Rick McDuffie
From: Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 4:01 am
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Guys, the Real Book started as an illegal fakebook, but it was better than most of the other fakebooks that were being circulated around and someone had the very bright idea of paying all the royalties to the appropriate people and doing it legally. There are still some illegal Real Books around, but nowadays you can walk into a music store and it's sitting there along with the latest collection of songs by Sarah McLachlan or whoever. Not only that, but you can get Real Books II and III now... I even have the "Standards" Real Book (all purchased through my shop).
As I remember, the fakebooks of yesteryear were absurdly expensive- the legal Real Books are about $40 per. Given the increase in the cost of living since the 50's, that's a steal.
The CD-ROM that is being circulated around is an illegal scan of the original bootleg Real Book and a bunch of other fakebooks... very cool to have, but still not quite kosher.
J. McGann- Yes, we have debates at gigs about whether the Real Book versions- changes, structure- is correct. The one I run into the most is Corcovado, which needs to return to the relative major on the end of each chorus... the Real Book has it staying in the minor key until the fine, which has educated a bunch of players to do it that way.[This message was edited by Rick McDuffie on 11 August 2006 at 05:15 AM.] |
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Bill Hatcher
From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2006 5:56 am
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Mine stays in the back of my SUV and always goes with me to the gig. Never played a jazz gig without it and it always comes in handy for a cocktail/dinner set.
Here in Atlanta some of the guys have lap tops that have like 13 versions of these fake books. They just put them on a stand and when someone calls a tune they scroll to the tune and there it is! |
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Bobby Lee
From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2006 9:16 am
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The relevant portion of the link: quote: During the academic year 1974--75, two students at the Berklee College of Music in Boston created a bootleg fake book called The Real Book. The Real Book endeavored to notate what professional jazz musicians would really play, in contrast to the simplified versions typically given out on sheet music and Tune-Dex cards. Steve Swallow, a professional bassist teaching at Berklee at that time, reports that the students' intention was "to make a book that contained a hipper, more contemporary repertoire. They thought about what would be involved in doing it legally but didn't have the time or money to pay royalties." And so they did it illegally, "publishing" at local copy shops a book of approximately 400 jazz tunes in 1975.
Swallow noticed the effect of The Real Book as he walked past rehearsal rooms at Berklee. "A month after The Real Book was published, all of a sudden I was hearing the right 'changes' to tunes that had been butchered," he observed. "It used to be a hilarious journey down the corridor, to hear the flagrant harmonic violations spewing out of these rooms. It's not to say that all of a sudden everything sounded great and it was Bill Evans at every turn, but there was a huge improvement."
The fact that The Real Book became, unexpectedly, the jazz bible, did not trouble Swallow. He acknowledged that "these particular 400 tunes were canonized at the expense of what they left out, and they left out plenty." But its compilers "were accurately reflecting what college jazz people were listening to at that time and skimming the cream of that repertoire."
Jazz guitarist Pat Metheny expanded on this thought: "It was the first book that reflected the ecumenical nature of jazz," with tunes drawn from swing, bop, blues, ballads, Latin jazz, jazz-rock, and other styles. The Real Book, said Metheny, "caused a few generations of players to have to develop skills that were rare at that time--only the very best players of that era would be able to go from start to finish in that book and be able to deal with the intrinsic musical requirements that such a book would demand. Nowadays, it is pretty common; and in fact, sort of required."
Today, despite the subsequent appearance of numerous legitimate rivals, The Real Book continues to be used extensively due to its unmatched combination of tasteful repertoire and idiomatic representation. It is a story of happenstance, of a casual student effort transforming itself into a creative act of immense significance and surviving only because bootleg fake books were by this time flying beneath the radar, as far as federal criminal prosecution was concerned. Metheny said: "It still is kind of unbelievable to me when I see it almost thirty years later now, on bandstands from Kiev to Bali, knowing its history like I do. Believe me, no one involved would have ever imagined it."
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AJ Azure
From: Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 2:41 pm
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The illegal Real Book has gone high tech. it's available on CD via trading. and an online download site. So it lives in its' new incarnation |
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