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Cody Campbell

 

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Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2006 8:16 pm    
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I just couldn't believe this intro. It's bizarre! The first couple times I listened to it, I thought it was just wierd, but it didn't occur to me what he had done.

Then once, after I listening through the intro, and getting the key was in my head) I restarted it. I realized...

The melody line isn't there!!! (for the first few notes, anyway).


I let our band's steeler hear it. We both gave an odd look and laughed, but then He said something like "well why not? steel players do weird stuff all the time". But I couldn't believe it.

Does anybody have any info on this recording?What do you think, just from listening? I'm sure you guys all agree that it's a weird thing to play for an intro; (At least that very opening part).

Great playing for sure... I'd just never heard anything like that before.

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Cody Campbell

 

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Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2006 8:23 pm    
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hold on.

it's not working. I'll try to get it right.
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Cody Campbell

 

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Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2006 8:36 pm    
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This one works!

It may take a minute though.

http://www.freefilehosting.net/file/?id=rdnxkqXa9w==

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Smiley Roberts

 

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Hendersonville,Tn. 37075
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2006 9:15 pm    
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This is,obviously,from some "live" radio show. Perhaps one of those 15 min. military sponsered shows. This sounds a lot like Jimmy Day. Jimmy used to use those "open string" patterns a lot. Even the "turnaround" is almost identical to the intro that Jimmy played on Ray Price's "City Lights".

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Tom Moorman

 

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Decatur, GA USA
Post  Posted 10 Aug 2006 11:06 am    
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I enjoy Faron Young without all the back up singers and strings. This is good stuff. Is there a CD of Faron's that doesn't have all the 'flowers?'
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Stephan Miller

 

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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 10 Aug 2006 11:57 am    
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Cody, I didn't think it was weird, he's just using the first few notes of the intro to harmonize the melody of the title line in a cool way. But thanks for posting this as the steeling's great and the singing's even better IMO-- Faron Young has one of the most naturally expressive voices you'll ever hear. I agree with Tom, I'd buy a Faron-without-frills CD in a heartbeat. Is there one?
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Cody Campbell

 

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Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 10 Aug 2006 1:46 pm    
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What I've heard from Faron (on records, tapes, and Sirius) has been basic country music, without big string arrangements.

Stephen and Tom,
Here's one thing you should look for. I found it one day at wal-mart for $5.00 just browsing. It's called "Moments to Remember." It's good old country music, with nice pedal-steel work. (I'd guess the recordings round mid-sixties era.) It's well worth buying for the historical value of the cuts, IMO, even if you pay $8 or $10 for it.

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I can't believe you guys don't think that is a weird intro. He leaves out the melody! I don't play steel, but I listen to it constantly, and I never hear a 5511 intro with the melody notes missing. Musicians ALWAYS play some kind of take on the "I can't help it if I'm still..." tag line. It's simply the RIGHT WAY.

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Stephan Miller

 

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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 10 Aug 2006 4:34 pm    
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Cody, thanks for the tip, I'll follow up.

About that intro-- if you sing the melody of the tag line along with it, you'll see it all fits perfectly: he's just harmonizing the melody...and yeah, for the first few notes he substitutes the harmony for the melody...I dunno, it didn't strike me as that radical, but then I don't have a big background in classic country, so I'll take your word for it. But to "depart" from a melody during a solo but still evoke it by playing a phrase or two of harmony notes is pretty common in many kinds of music, including country, so maybe this practice just spilled over into the intro. Anyway,props to Mr. Day-- or whoever the mystery steeler may be-- for doing something a little different that worked well. How many years later is it, and we're still talking about it?

--Steve
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Cody Campbell

 

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Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 10 Aug 2006 7:44 pm    
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That definitely makes sense, Stephen.

(Though it's a little odd), you are right, It does work well. I may have made too big a deal of it, but for an opening it just threw me off.

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And Smiley, thanks for your opinion. (You are almost always helpful when I bring up things like this). Let's see if any of your fellow C&W veterans will agree with your assessment.
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On Walter Stettner's site, austriansteelguitar.com, (on the 'information' page) he lists this song, noting that Buddy played on Faron's version. BUT, I'm sure that refers to a studio version, not the one here.

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