When did you stop enjoying Rock?

Dave Van Allen · Post by **Dave Van Allen** » 21 Jan 2006 8:49 am

I'm with Jason on this... never stopped.

My favorites are usually oldies from my formative years, but every once in a while something new catches my ear... even if it's something old (not current), but there are some current acts that I dig from time to time ,when I'm not practicing "A Way To Survive"

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Webb Kline · Post by **Webb Kline** » 21 Jan 2006 8:50 pm

There is some great rock out there, but not on the charts. It used to be that bands had to be very uniquely different from the other bands in order to get signed. Now they all have to be the same.

I really like Clapton's new album though. Best singing and songwriting he's done on a long time.

I've also been on an ELP kick lately. You know, when you realize that they were just kids when they were writing that stuff, they were absolutely incredible. Tarkus is one of my all time favorite projects. I've always thought it would be cool to do it a capella.

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Ed Altrichter · Post by **Ed Altrichter** » 23 Jan 2006 7:10 am

Right after Rock Around the Clock was recorded. 1954 ?

Dean Dobbins · Post by **Dean Dobbins** » 23 Jan 2006 8:17 am

I never started!

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Charley Adair · Post by **Charley Adair** » 23 Jan 2006 12:08 pm

When I was about 18 the Beatles came out with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. That did it for me.

Ray Montee · Post by **Ray Montee** » 23 Jan 2006 2:03 pm

I think it was about 9:15 PM on a Thursday just after they announced what it was.......

Jim Peters · Post by **Jim Peters** » 24 Jan 2006 4:21 pm

In the 60's, it was more individualistic. Is there anybody nowadays even close to the Doors? Or the Who? Or Jimi?
Some new stuff I like a lot. John Mayer's stuff is pretty OK, although I'm not big on his SRV trip that he's on now.
I think disco killed it for me. I love some of the groups you all have mentioned, like ELP, James Gang(Barnstormers, Walk away), Mountain(Silver Papers). I can still play almost any Led Zep song, was in a zep band for years. The song remains the same -great one. Thanks for sparking some memories! JP

Chris Lasher · Post by **Chris Lasher** » 24 Jan 2006 8:01 pm

John Mayer's stuff is pretty OK, although I'm not big on his SRV trip that he's on now.

That's funny, considering the guy used to do SRV covers here in Athens and in Hotlanta before "making it".

I don't find much music on the airwaves these days that great, but there's particularly a dearth of really good Rock music. The only Rock albums I've purchased in recent years come from guitar virtuosos like Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, and Eric Johnson. I think the void was a blessing for me, though, because it spurred me out to find other genres where musicality still thrives. I can't imagine having found bands like Bela Fleck & the Flecktones, the Pat Metheny Group, and Alison Krauss & Union Station if there was still good music on the radio.

I will say, if it weren't a sin, I would be jealous of you folks who got to see the 60s acts live, in the days before TicketMaster, when bands were cool because of their music, not their "image". Unfortunately for me, almost all the good stuff was over a decade before I was born.

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Jim Peters · Post by **Jim Peters** » 25 Jan 2006 12:04 pm

Hey Chris, JM's good at the SRV stuff, but so are 2 or 3 guys in every major city, including St. Louis. I just think his singer/songwriter stuff is more unique. JP

John McGann · Post by **John McGann** » 25 Jan 2006 2:43 pm

"Rock" is a meaningless term because it has 5067 definitions IMHO. I always loved the Beatles, never liked The Cars, always liked Zappa, never liked REO Styxwagon, always loved Rockabilly, never liked Spice Girls etc. etc. "Rock- do you mean Slayer, or the Shaggs?"

There is too much diversity that falls under the terms "rock", "country", "classical" "jazz" and even "bluegrass" and "Irish" etc. to really have any real meaning at all, except for the bean counters. I clearly enjoy too many kinds of music! IMHO. YMMV. No accounting for tastes. If you don't like rock it's your business. No offense intended. Offer may not be repeated. Do not use when under the influence of heavy machinery, etc.

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Mat Rhodes · Post by **Mat Rhodes** » 25 Jan 2006 4:18 pm

John,

The term may be meaningless if we let ourselves get hung up on the minutiae of subgenres, etc. There was a post about a month ago that corrected my assumption that Country music only had about 3 subgenres. The poster listed at least 10 that I hadn't even considered.

For the point of this discussion, the label encompasses what you find in the CD bins titled "Rock" or "Pop" when you walk into any Sam Goody, Tower Records, or Fill-In-The-Blank-Of-Your-Favorite Music Store. The term has to be broad enough to take into account all of the age differences between the Forum members.

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John McGann · Post by **John McGann** » 25 Jan 2006 4:54 pm

Hi Matt- To me, "subgenres" is just another label, and "minutiae" is the very stuff that sets one band apart from another, or George Jones from Ray Price for that matter... it matters!

I transitioned into "other" styles (other than rock) when i was in my late teens and when I was no longer "too cool" for jazz, classical, etc. I never became an anti-rock snob like many of the newly converted jazz musicians I hung around with...in fact, because I play a variety of styles, I find the "anti your-style-here" person in every idiom- whatever it is that they don't play or listen to isn't worth listening to. I still don't care much for many areas of "rock" but there is so much good stuff that I could never dismiss the whole lot.

There are traits that individual "rock" bands have that are "beyond category". If I like a band, I don't care if they are from the "rock" bin or the "classical" bin. I don't mean to hijack your thread, just lump me in with those who haven't given up on rock (or country or...)

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Chris Lasher · Post by **Chris Lasher** » 25 Jan 2006 4:56 pm

Jim, I'm sorry, I should have clarified. The funny thing is not that he's on an SRV kick, but saying "that he's on now" (emphasis mine). He's always been goofy about SRV.

Mark Lind-Hanson · Post by **Mark Lind-Hanson** » 26 Jan 2006 8:56 am

I think you begin to hate rock & roll when you begin to resent younger players for making it.
Not that there's a lot I am hearing these days that turns me on so much as much did betweeen the mid 60's and early 80's, but,
if I said I've stopped LIKING it?...
I hope I NEVER stop LIKING it.

Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 29 Jan 2006 6:31 am

>> Rock- do you mean Slayer, or the Shaggs? >>

both!