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Anybody want a mandolin?
Lloyd Loar signature Gibson F-5 for sale on Elderly.
$135,000
http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/90U-4291.htm
Wonder if they take a check......
-MG
$135,000
http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/90U-4291.htm
Wonder if they take a check......
-MG
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Well, I'm probably going to get my tail jumped on, but at that price it's a collectible, not a musical instrument. Put it in an environmentally controlled display case filtered for UV. Give it a backup generator in case the power goes out. Bring the faithful into the holy of holies to see the shrine. Speak softly! And no pictures! The flash might react with the finish.
It sounds a bit silly to me, but I'm a musician, not a collector.
Charlie
It sounds a bit silly to me, but I'm a musician, not a collector.
Charlie
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Ricky Skaggs plays with the exact same model every day. Of course, I guess he could afford it. His is a 1923 model. I wouldn't be surprised if Chris Thile has one sitting around somewhere. I know he played one on one of his recent albums.
If you've got something that's in mint condition that ends up being the same model and builder as some monster's like Bill Monroe or Skaggs, it's going to be worth a lot of money. There was a similar model (1923) on Elderly that sold for $125,000. So that's not an unreasonable price.
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If you've got something that's in mint condition that ends up being the same model and builder as some monster's like Bill Monroe or Skaggs, it's going to be worth a lot of money. There was a similar model (1923) on Elderly that sold for $125,000. So that's not an unreasonable price.
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Let's put things into perspective. A friend of mine here in Oklahoma just sold his 4 bedroom brick house with 3 acres and a metal shop building for $40,000.
As part of my teacher benefits here, I pay $50/month to rent my house.
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As part of my teacher benefits here, I pay $50/month to rent my house.
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Guy`s these Loar mandolins are high dollar instruments and have been for some time,and they are increasing in value every day.I am told Bill Monroes Loar sold a little while back for $1000,000 plus change.Prewar Martin D-45`s are selling at $150,000 plus.Big money colletor`s are buying up these rare instruments because they are very rare and ar some of the best acoustic instruments ever built.
There are moments (most of my waking ones) when I think a lee-tle ol' mando for $135,000 or $150,000 is a better deal than a ZB D-10 for $500. (Where's that gal with the fireplace poker? When she's through over t' Bill's, would you send her my way? I got the ZB out...)<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Ben Elder on 30 June 2005 at 12:33 PM.]</p></FONT>
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I just happened to check out a '24 Loar F-5 this past weekend. Some old guy at a festival in AZ had it there and let one of the bands play it on stage.
I played better than some I have seen, but it didn't sound any better then some of the $5000 mandolins I've played.
There are less than 200 Loar F-5's out there, so that has some to do with the price. In the past year of bluegrass festivals I have seen five of them and been on stage with two.
I have a picture of me playing on stage with Byron Berline, and he was playing his Loar.
They are nice instruments, and at the time they were very well made, but I still don't think that a working instrument should be worth that much. Maybe one that 100% perfect to go into a museum.
I played better than some I have seen, but it didn't sound any better then some of the $5000 mandolins I've played.
There are less than 200 Loar F-5's out there, so that has some to do with the price. In the past year of bluegrass festivals I have seen five of them and been on stage with two.
I have a picture of me playing on stage with Byron Berline, and he was playing his Loar.
They are nice instruments, and at the time they were very well made, but I still don't think that a working instrument should be worth that much. Maybe one that 100% perfect to go into a museum.
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"Well, I'm probably going to get my tail jumped on, but at that price it's a collectible, not a musical instrument. Put it in an environmentally controlled display case filtered for UV. Give it a backup generator in case the power goes out. Bring the faithful into the holy of holies to see the shrine. Speak softly! And no pictures! The flash might react with the finish.
It sounds a bit silly to me, but I'm a musician, not a collector"
My brother saw Ronnie McCoury last week at a Bluegrass festival out here in Grass Valley, CA. He plays and endorses Gilchrist mandoline, which I believe sell for something like $18-20K. His parents had just bought him a Loar for $120K. I suspect he will play it. He is, BTW, my favorite Bluegrass mandolin player that I have heard.
A couple of years ago, I bought a Loar copy mandolin from the late Cliff Sargent, who built mandolins for 40+ years. He had a Loar, and he did an MRI of it, so he could get all the dimensions, thicknesses, etc. right. I played his Loar briefly when I was trying out some of his new mandolins. It was very nice, but actually I liked his own mandolin, which he built for himself, better. For some reason, that mandolin played like butter. I asked him what made it play that way, and he said he didn't know, some of them just come out better. I like mine fine, but his was just awesome. I paid $7K for mine, but would have paid $10K for his. It was not for sale, however, at any price. I'm not sure what happened to it after Cliff's death; I think his son has it.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
It sounds a bit silly to me, but I'm a musician, not a collector"
My brother saw Ronnie McCoury last week at a Bluegrass festival out here in Grass Valley, CA. He plays and endorses Gilchrist mandoline, which I believe sell for something like $18-20K. His parents had just bought him a Loar for $120K. I suspect he will play it. He is, BTW, my favorite Bluegrass mandolin player that I have heard.
A couple of years ago, I bought a Loar copy mandolin from the late Cliff Sargent, who built mandolins for 40+ years. He had a Loar, and he did an MRI of it, so he could get all the dimensions, thicknesses, etc. right. I played his Loar briefly when I was trying out some of his new mandolins. It was very nice, but actually I liked his own mandolin, which he built for himself, better. For some reason, that mandolin played like butter. I asked him what made it play that way, and he said he didn't know, some of them just come out better. I like mine fine, but his was just awesome. I paid $7K for mine, but would have paid $10K for his. It was not for sale, however, at any price. I'm not sure what happened to it after Cliff's death; I think his son has it.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
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"A couple of years ago, I bought a Loar copy mandolin from the late Cliff Sargent, who built mandolins for 40+ years. He had a Loar, and he did an MRI of it, so he could get all the dimensions, thicknesses, etc. right. I played his Loar briefly when I was trying out some of his new mandolins. It was very nice, but actually I liked his own mandolin, which he built for himself, better. For some reason, that mandolin played like butter. I asked him what made it play that way, and he said he didn't know, some of them just come out better."
Here's another mandolin reminiscence (sp?).
In about 1969 or thereabouts, I went to a New Year's Eve party at a friend's in LA, whom we called "The Mailman." Herb Steiner was there and had his Gibson F-5, which is from the 30's, I believe. At the time, I was playing a 1915 F-2, a round-hole model, that used to belong to Roland White. It was pretty clunky to play. I took Herb's mandolin into the bathroom and played it for about two hours! Compared to mine, it played like "butter," too.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Here's another mandolin reminiscence (sp?).
In about 1969 or thereabouts, I went to a New Year's Eve party at a friend's in LA, whom we called "The Mailman." Herb Steiner was there and had his Gibson F-5, which is from the 30's, I believe. At the time, I was playing a 1915 F-2, a round-hole model, that used to belong to Roland White. It was pretty clunky to play. I took Herb's mandolin into the bathroom and played it for about two hours! Compared to mine, it played like "butter," too.
Cheers,
Alan Shank