does this bug you or is it just me?

Dayna Wills · From: Sacramento, CA (deceased)

My first gig, I only had one song, and the sax player would "up stage" me every time I sang it. He would pretend that I farted and fan the air, once he went to the PA and started turning the volume up and down. To this day, when someone up-stages me or does it to someone else, I remember that sax player and I do a slow burn. How 'bout you?

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Fred Shannon · From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas, R.I.P.

Dayna, yes it bugs me no end and I usually manage to accidentally STEP ( a little harder than normal) on their foot when I leave for break. At 240 lbs, that can be a problem for someone.

fred

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Tony Prior · From: Charlotte NC

He's a total idiot..

Although this has never happened to me..I also would never let it happen more than once.

You really need to pull him aside and tell him how much you do not appreciate it and if it happens again you are gone.

Is he the band leader ? If he's not then the band leader should resolve this..

if he is..

he's not much of a band leader..

I don't see LONG TERM in the cards here..

t

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 25 February 2005 at 04:06 AM.]

Mike Perlowin · From: Los Angeles CA

This being a family forum, I cannot use the word that comes to mind to describe people who belittle their fellow performers. Suffice to say it is part of the gastro-intestinal system.

Glyn Bone · From: Halifax.Nova Scotia. Canada * R.I.P.

Mr.Perlowin, I`m with you all the way.
Several years ago I was working in a Country band and we had a good `sound man`....really knew his `onions` and always gave us a good sound out front.....one night one of the band members freinds complained that he couldn`t hear the steel as much as he wanted....he snuck over to the board and turned up my channel...( this was during a break )....the effect was startling to say the least....Living on Love suddenly got a `new meaning`....needless to say he was forcibly ejected and told not to bother coming to our gigs again.
Yup....some people can really get up ya nose can`t they?

Glyndwr.

Jim Cohen · From: Philadelphia, PA

Glyn, I'm not sure of the point of your story: are you saying it should be "ok" for audience members to tweak the mixing board to their own personal satisfaction when your soundman is not looking?

[This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 25 February 2005 at 07:12 AM.]

Bobby Lee · From: Cloverdale, California, USA

Dayna, there is no excuse for rudeness of that sort. You were right, he was wrong, and everyone who saw the performance knew that.

Dayna Wills · From: Sacramento, CA (deceased)

Guys,
Fortunately, it happened a long time ago and said sax player is dead,(natural causes)
He wasn't the band leader, but he was a relative and maybe , since he was the worst offender, it had to do with sibling rivalry??? I'm glad you all feel strongly about these idiots.

Jim Cohen · From: Philadelphia, PA

David Wright · From: Pilot Point ,Tx USA.

I often wondered why Dayna was mean to sax players.....hummm //... now I know...I'm glad it weren't a steel played that pissed her off!!!!

Luv Ya ..D

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Dayna Wills · From: Sacramento, CA (deceased)

ok, it's me. (I still don't like people who up stage other people)
As for David and Jim: I am known as the Pussycat of female vocalists, I am never MEAN to anyone AND I think I will hang onto this "thing" until the deep breathing kicks in. (HA!)
(I love steel players)

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Gary Meyer · From: Sacramento, California, USA

When I used to play upright bass, I would end up with keyboard players that would play the bass line, often louder than the bass. I finally stopped playing with keyboard players.

Billy Wilson · From: El Cerrito, California, USA

How bout Tele players who really wanna be pedal steel guitarists? I've been through that plenty. I just started a new country band with a fella who has a big fat hollow body guitar and likes to do his licks on those nice old bass strings. Aa Ricky davis would say: Yeeee Haaaaa!!!!! Bdub

Mike Perlowin · From: Los Angeles CA

The irony of all this is that these jerks who belittle others on stage do so because they think it somehow makes them look better. The truth is, it has just the opposite effect.

Case in point: the recent Peter Sellers biopic on HBO. There is a scene where Sellers insults Blake Edwards at a party. It starts off like one of those celebrety roasts, and at first everyody thinks he's kidding, but it soon becomes apparent that he is not. The result is that everybody was turned off not to Edwards, but to Sellers.

Anybody here see it besides me?

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Paul King · From: Gainesville, Texas, USA

I see that kind of gesture as being rude. He should have made a public statement and apologized for his actions. There is nothing wrong with pulling a joke but you have to be careful not to cross the line that would publically embarass someone.

richard burton · From: Britain

It's a talent thing;
Performers (often singers) who constantly belittle their band members on and off stage
are actually embarrassed at their own lack of talent, and will do anything to divert attention away from from the actual talent on stage with them.
R B

Drew Howard · From: 48854

That happened last year and I fired him.

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Dayna Wills · From: Sacramento, CA (deceased)

Any vocalist who belittles a band member in public verges on insanity. I am thrilled to have the calibur of players I've had backing me and all I can think to do is brag on 'em. If someone makes a mistake, you can bet I made at least 3 of of 'em first.

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Herb Steiner · From: Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064

I actually fired someone, for such an offense, over the microphone while onstage.

When I fronted a band with singer Melissa Miller, we had a bass player who was constantly having these ego battles with Melissa about who will sing what and when, etc. He made an onstage smartass remark over the microphone one night that was the last straw.

I turned to Mel and asked, "do you want to do it, or should I?" She allowed as how I should do it, but she'd talk to Dusty later.

When it came time to introduce the band, I said to the audience "Ladies and gentlemen, let's have an especially big round of applause for our bass player, Dusty... being that this is the last time he'll ever be seen onstage with ME!!!!" The look on his face was priceless.

After the set, Dusty cluelessly asked me "hey Herb, whassup with THAT?" I turned to Mel and said "Melissa, would you like to take over?..." She proceeded to inform him, in a way only a scorned woman can do, precisely how the cow ate the cabbage, so to speak.

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c c johnson · From: killeen,tx usa * R.I.P.

Yea Herb, I needed you to front some of the bands I have been in. When I was subbing in Spades bands, Duece Spriggins was the enforcer and he was not as diplomatic as you. See ya in Dallas CC

Dayna Wills · From: Sacramento, CA (deceased)

Herb,
That reminds me of how Arthur Godfrey fired Julius La Rosa: He introduced him and told the audience that it was Julie's last night.
OUCH!

Joe Casey · From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)

I had a bass player whom I hired along with drummer as a team. Big mistake. They were always teaming up alright and one night in the middle of a song I stopped singing and asked the audience if they minded if I took a short break to clean up the band stand. I told the duo to pack their S**t and haul*ss.We did a three piece thing the rest of the evening and I hired two real musicians the next night who did not mind working 6 nights a week. Never seen the bass holder again on any bandstand but I ran into the drummer who was working in the Nursery section of a K-Mart.

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Dave Giegerich · From: Ellicott City, MD, R.I.P.

During a break at a gig with Lester Young the drummer asked him, "When's the last time we played together?"
Lester replied, "Tonight".

Les Anderson · From: The Great White North

I think about the best on stage firing I have ever been witness to was while my wife and I were on vacation a few years back and we stopped at a smallish town not far out of Kansas City.

We spent the first evening in a rather boisterous little country bar and dance room that had a pretty good band called the Country Rowdies. It was obvious to the audience that something was amiss between the steel player and the lead guitarist because the two of them were bickering back and forth on stage while in the midst of playing their sets.

About half way through the evening, the bass man, who was also the MC and obviously the boss, got on the mic and asked the steel man to play his favourite steel solo “for these good people” -Farewell Party-. Even before the steel player ended his last slide, the bass man was on the mic and thanking the steel player for the wonderful job on his farewell song then added, “and don’t git any scratches on that pretty red guitar while you’re packing it up.

There were a few giggles in the crowd at first but we all got the drift within seconds then there was dead silence.

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[This message was edited by Les Anderson on 01 March 2005 at 07:59 PM.]