Newbie-Need advise for starting over

Cindy Burch · Post by **Cindy Burch** » 26 Sep 2003 4:51 am

It has been 25 years since I've picked up a steel guitar. I've been playing a standard all this time. I really want to get back on the Steel. Can't believe I don't remember much. I learned Steel before Standard. It's age I guess. LOL
Can anyone recommend a good book or cd on learning to play? I am hoping once I get started it will come to me, like riding a bike? I still have my old bar it was made by Nick Manoloff? It feels pretty heavy now but it was fine 25 yrs. ago. hope you guy's will be patient with me if I post too many dumb questions.

Lindley · Post by **Lindley** » 26 Sep 2003 5:22 am

What are you calling a "steel guitar"? Did you play a lap steel?

Cindy Burch · Post by **Cindy Burch** » 26 Sep 2003 5:44 am

I'm sorry.
Yes, I played a Lap Steel.
Never cared much for pedal steel.

nick allen · Post by **nick allen** » 26 Sep 2003 5:58 am

The book/CD question really depends on the type of music/tuning you're going to play/use.
If it's C6, country swing type music, Scotty's Music has a C6 Non-pedal method (with CD) which is pretty good. Herb Remington has a tab collection for A6 (or C6 with a high G string). Scottys also has a Don Helms/Hank Williams book/CD.
For "dobro"-type G tuning, there are a number of books around, of which I only really know Stacy Phillips' books, which are quite widely available in music stores.
And of course, for general advice and information - right here

(Don't forget the "search" function at the top of the page - you'll find a mass of information in the archives)
Have fun
Nick

Jeff Strouse · Post by **Jeff Strouse** » 26 Sep 2003 6:19 am

I'd go with a video. Cindy Cashdollar, Herb Remington, and Bobbe Seymour all have a non-pedal series.

The Jerry Byrd course and video are well worth the investment. It's the most complete steel guitar course you'll find...it covers all the major tunings and techniques. If you're going to spend the money for the book and cassette course, pay a little more and get the video, too. It complements the book course perfectly.

IMHO, Video has an advantage over book courses, in that the viewer can actually see what to do.

Don't be shy to ask questions. The only dumb questions are those that aren't asked!

Hope this helps

Bill Leff · Post by **Bill Leff** » 26 Sep 2003 6:50 am

Videos are great, but there's no substitute for a good teacher and a few lessons.

Donald Ruetenik · Post by **Donald Ruetenik** » 26 Sep 2003 6:51 am

Cindy Cashdollar's two videos are #1 on my list.

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 26 Sep 2003 7:18 am

Cindy, while not non-pedal related, if you want to hear some pedal steel, my band is playing not too far from you at the Texas Star this Friday and Saturday. It's at the southeast corner of Ferguson and Gus Thomason. I haven't played non-pedal for over 30 years, but I'll be glad to talk steel guitar with you.

Cindy Burch · Post by **Cindy Burch** » 26 Sep 2003 7:58 am

Thanks for all the great info. You guys are great!
I think I will look for Stacey Phillips' book.
(Dobro G tuning)
I am gonna get a few lessons in too.
Thanks Jim, I didn't know the Texas Star was still there. Went there years ago. Maybe we'll come up Saturday night. What's the name of your band?

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 26 Sep 2003 8:05 am

It's Sweatin' Bullets. Their website hasn't been updated in a while, but you can check it out at http://www.sweatinbullets.com

Hope to see you there!

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Chuck Halcomb · Post by **Chuck Halcomb** » 26 Sep 2003 12:02 pm

I am going through the same process of learning after not playing since 1958. I am amazed at how much is coming back now that I am playing again and how fast it is coming back.

I 2nd the vote for the Cindy Cashdollar, Remington & Symore video's. I haven't gotten Bobbies yet, but am fixen to order it up soon as I can get around to it.

I think Herb Remington hit the nail on the head when he said, "remember, the point is to have fun" and boy am I finding that the steel guitar is providing me with lots of fun!

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Chuck Halcomb · Post by **Chuck Halcomb** » 26 Sep 2003 12:05 pm

One more thing. Don't forget that learning a bit of theory will go a long way in helping you get back on your feet with this or any musical instrument!!

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Donald Ruetenik · Post by **Donald Ruetenik** » 26 Sep 2003 2:11 pm

What kind of Lap Steel are you playing?

Cindy Burch · Post by **Cindy Burch** » 26 Sep 2003 4:07 pm

I got a new Roustabout acoustic steel.
It was only 129.00. I don't need an amp.
So when I want to practice I can play anywhere.

Cindy Burch · Post by **Cindy Burch** » 27 Sep 2003 5:13 am

Okay ya'll can stop laughing about my inexpesive little lap.
I think it is very good for the price. And for a beginner and just stompin' around ya can't beat it.
If anyone knows of a better deal please let me know.
I hope to get a good Dobro later. I love the dobro sound. But they ain't cheep. I hope I am not goin' about this back wards-by picking back up the steel then movin on to Dobro?
I do have a nice standard though-
Gibson Songbird.

Donald Ruetenik · Post by **Donald Ruetenik** » 28 Sep 2003 7:12 am

No one's laughing. I can only speak for myself but I'm sure many will concur that it's good to see you are having fun.

I wish I still had my first 'inexpensive' guitar from back in '65- a Sears/Silvertone. I'm sure others can relate with tales of their first guitars.

Justin May · Post by **Justin May** » 3 Nov 2003 8:14 pm

Cindy, how is the volume on that Roustabout? Does it get pretty loud? I'm interested in playing in the back yard or while camping and such. What kind of strings do you have on it?

Cindy Burch · Post by **Cindy Burch** » 4 Nov 2003 3:28 am

Hey Justin.
That Roustabout isn't real loud.
We have a little travel trailer out on some land in Wills Point and I take that Raustabout out there.
It is small and easy to carry around.
It isn't as loud as my Regal.
But it is a standard not a Resonator.
As far as the strings I still have the original ones on it.
I think they are standard steel. Flat wound .012 ect.
If you get one and don't like it, Chuck is a great guy and stands behind everything he sells.
I took a short video of me playin it.
I'll post the link. But don't laugh I'm a beginner.