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Tracey Lawrence doesn't have a steel player anymore on the road? I saw him just last year (in a small venue) and he had his steel player with him.

I was talking with the fiddler player after the concert, and it sounded like Tracey was moving back towards more traditional country again.

Hard to believe he's gotten rid of his steel player.

Sometimes the bands you'd least expect to have a steel player have one. Mark Wills has one, as do The Wilkinsons.
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Theresa,
It bothers me that someone can go to hear their favorite singer "live" and can't leave the concert having heard parts that Paul came up with. The reason Artists can get away with this is becouse their music is so far from being Country that no one misses the Steel. Eventually the Producers will pick up on that and realize that Steel isn't needed on the records either! I don't want that to happen to Paul, becouse when Country Music "evolves" to the point where he's hurting for work, a couple dozen of us road players will be OUT of work!
Now, I'm sure you'll say that "once again we've strayed from the topic", but no matter what the topic is, You continually have to remind us how Great it is that Country Music is EVOLVING. It's not evolving, it's dying! And, that's killing me! Not becouse I'm out of work, but becouse I have to spend my day listening to talk radio!!!!
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Post by Loren Nelson »

Hey! How come there's no Singing on 'Talk Radio'? Why can't it Evolve?!! It's a shame that it puts such limitations on itself. Why can't it expand? It would only make it better! Right?
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<SMALL>Hey! How come there's no Singing on 'Talk Radio'? Why can't it Evolve?!! . . .It would only make it better! Right?</SMALL>
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Post by GORDY NICHOL »

If any one listened to Eddie Stubbs last night ,he had Johnny Bush as a guest.Johnny made a good statement about new artists and how the sound is not the same as it used to be.(As we all know!!!!) He more or less stated that,It's more or less the young PRODUCERS that are creating the non-country sounds(That most of us don't like).He also said that he can't tell some of the new people apart from the others.Johnny said that "He felt sorry for some of the newer artists,because they might not have any control over their sound." Of course this is one mans opinion,but look at who the man is!!! I wonder if we should start throwing rocks at young producers,instead of new artists or relatives of famous steel persons?????
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I'm not throwing rocks at anyone, just 'defending my faith'. I didn't get to hear Eddie Stubbs interview Johnny Bush Tuesday night on WSM. Did anybody record it?
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Bumping up as this is being rerun this weekend.

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Post by Ray Jenkins »

<SMALL>I'm as country as cornbread. I happen to like rolls for a change.</SMALL>
I bet when you see cornbread on the table,you don't say would you please pass the rolls.Country is country,nothing else is.
Cornbread is cornbread,rolls are rolls.Ray


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One of the things I like about "Country Music" is the fact that its boundaries keep expanding and expanding and expanding. While I am getting to be an old man and my tastes still go back to Ray Price and Patsy Cline, my children are a different story. Do you think my children would ever be interested in hearing Porter Wagoner (sp)? Never in a million years!! But they do enjoy Rascal Flats (sp) and I get to go to a RF concert next month with my son who is totally enthusiastic about it. Now I am pleased that my son is into "country music" even though his tastes are different than mine. When he tunes in to a "country station" to hear RF he will also hear some steel guitar on other people's records and that is a good thing. I am proud that "country" is big enough to allow groups like The Oak Ridge Boys, Alabama, Charlie Daniels, and many others to participate in the fraternity/sorority of "country music", even though these groups don't carry a steel guitar. If Ray Charles announced today that he wanted to become known as a "country" star, nothing would make me more happy, because he makes music that touches my soul and he can sing country music with the best of them. Why can't we embrace all styles of those who want to participate and be proud of the fact that "country" can lay some "variety" on you. Ever been to a "blues" concert where you get four hours of blues, and blues, and more blues and its all the same chord progressions and the same tempo? Well I think variety is the spice of life and I for one am proud of the diversity that is offered by "country music". When I hear a Ray Price tune, I want to hear those Emmons licks in there; but when I hear the Oak Ridge Boys, its OK with me that the steel is not there because they sound fine without it. Just my two cents; now excuse me while I put on my bullet-proof vest. :>)

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Post by Theresa Galbraith »

Ray,
Thanks for my quote.
You don't know me well, but I'd probably ask if the cornbread was made with buttermilk? If not, I'd want Rolls! Image
My statement was meaning I like diversity. If you don't like it, don't watch. I do that alot!
I try not to dwell on things I don't like.


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Post by Mike Sweeney »

After reading all this and discussing it between ourselves, we felt we had to add this comment. Like anything or listen to anything that gives you some enjoyment. Just don't put rolls on the table and tell me it's cornbread.

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Post by Ray Jenkins »

<SMALL>Just don't put rolls on the table and tell me it's cornbread.</SMALL>
Me neither Mike.
Theresa,I haven't watched the G.O.O in 2 years
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Post by Theresa Galbraith »

Bill,
I'm not trying to be a trouble maker. This forum is suppose to be about steel. We all have opinions.

Ray,
If you haven't watched the Opry in 2 years, what are you complaining about?

Mike,
I don't think the GOO has ever been pure country. It's always had diversity. Maybe, I'm wrong with my statement. Theresa
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>Ray,
If you haven't watched the Opry in 2 years, what are you complaining about?</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You are the one that said,[QUOTE]My statement was meaning I like diversity. If you don't like it, don't watch. I do that alot!
I try not to dwell on things I don't like.[QUOTE]
What I'm complaining about is,people calling country -country when it is not.Alot like calling "buttermilk cornbread" rolls.
I don't listen to the radio,I listen to my tapes and CD's.Oh!! and I read the forum.
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Post by Mike Sweeney »

Since I posted a reply a little while ago, I suppose I should be the one to answer this. I never said the Opry was pure country. No one in his right mind would ever say Bill Monroe was country. Over the years, the Opry has hosted many artists from other fields of music...BUT, no one ever introduced them as country acts. My point here is that while these new acts may be fine in their fields, and may have quite a bit of support from their fans, they are NOT Country acts and I'm tired of being told that they are. I will be the first to admit that I do not play any instrument and have never worked in the music business, but having grown up in it I do have a fair understanding of what constitutes a country act. As always, this is only my opinion but I firmly believe that the people who are convinced that some of the new "hat acts" are country are the very reason we don't hear fiddle and steel used in the recording studio anymore. All things must change and progress if they are to stay alive and interesting and want to attract new individuals and perceptions. This definitely can be done where country music is concerned and people like Brad Paisley have proved it. To me there should be no comparison between a country singer like him and a "new act" like Phil Vasser. As far as Phil being able to sing better dancing around the stage than most do standing still, someone needs to have their hearing checked. I know some of the old-timers at the Opry don't sing as well as they once did but we should still respect what they have done and the FACT that fans still want to hear them. Who would have wanted to be the one to tell Grandpa Jones that he was singing off key?? Not me, I can assure you! I'm sure I will get negative feedback from this, but I felt this needed to be said by a non-player.

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