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I do confess,that while one of the visiting steel players was playing,I got on the phone and ask one of my steel player buddies if my hearing was ok as I thought the steel man had a string or pedal out of tune.
He replied,you are right on,he is out of tune.
It seemed to be just a one string or one pedal problem as it just seemed to occur only occasionaly during the song.
Unfortunately when this happens it seems that the listeners will often hear it before the player.Even if the player does hear it during his ride,what can he do in the middle of a ride except try to dodge the bullet and hope he can dodge the pull that is out of tune.
Haven't we all been there? Well maybe not on the Opry.
You don't suppose the ghosts of Hal, Sonny and Weldon might have returned to the Opry and been up to some of their old tricks do you do you?
Give them(players) a break.Or better,let me trade places with one of them.Boy,that got voted down in a hurry.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by louie hallford on 07 April 2002 at 10:21 PM.]</p></FONT>
He replied,you are right on,he is out of tune.
It seemed to be just a one string or one pedal problem as it just seemed to occur only occasionaly during the song.
Unfortunately when this happens it seems that the listeners will often hear it before the player.Even if the player does hear it during his ride,what can he do in the middle of a ride except try to dodge the bullet and hope he can dodge the pull that is out of tune.
Haven't we all been there? Well maybe not on the Opry.
You don't suppose the ghosts of Hal, Sonny and Weldon might have returned to the Opry and been up to some of their old tricks do you do you?
Give them(players) a break.Or better,let me trade places with one of them.Boy,that got voted down in a hurry.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by louie hallford on 07 April 2002 at 10:21 PM.]</p></FONT>
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"I sure would hate to have you hear real steel playing"</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think I know "real steel playing".
I didn't see the Opry live on TV because I was front row Saturday night at another show.
A few "real steelers" were there.
(Hal R, John H, David S, Don H, Joe W, and more). There were mistakes, it's a human condition.
If a player get torn apart in a Worldwide Forum like this, and remember your comments are archived and searchable forever, I understand why some of the greats refuse to play Major Shows.
-j0ey-
"I sure would hate to have you hear real steel playing"</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think I know "real steel playing".
I didn't see the Opry live on TV because I was front row Saturday night at another show.
A few "real steelers" were there.
(Hal R, John H, David S, Don H, Joe W, and more). There were mistakes, it's a human condition.
If a player get torn apart in a Worldwide Forum like this, and remember your comments are archived and searchable forever, I understand why some of the greats refuse to play Major Shows.
-j0ey-
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B,
I know we agree to disagree, we are friends To say the steelplayers with the acts mentioned didn't do a great job is bogus! They got the job with those artist, because they know how to play it like it was recorded! They are doing a great job They have jobs playing infront of thousands of people....Steelguitar is being heard! Theresa
I know we agree to disagree, we are friends To say the steelplayers with the acts mentioned didn't do a great job is bogus! They got the job with those artist, because they know how to play it like it was recorded! They are doing a great job They have jobs playing infront of thousands of people....Steelguitar is being heard! Theresa
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A very wise man once wrote "Be very generous with the music of others, and very critical of your own. For surely, one day the tables will be turned on you."
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There's no chance of me losing my hair over very much, thanks to good genes.
Nah, I don't take your comments "seriously" because they're not directed at me, but I think you made some serious put-downs of those steel players. I bet the fellas whose playing you described as "not steel playing" but more "like two cats fighting in my yard and maybe the cats would sound better," probably take their music, and sarcastic comments about it, very seriously.
I'm all for having "fun." I'm also an experienced performer, and I can tell you that if you're trying to be funny with "put-down" humor, it works best when the person you're attacking is yourself (like Rodney Dangerfield) rather than your audience, which probably includes players with better gigs and better chops.
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There's no chance of me losing my hair over very much, thanks to good genes.
Nah, I don't take your comments "seriously" because they're not directed at me, but I think you made some serious put-downs of those steel players. I bet the fellas whose playing you described as "not steel playing" but more "like two cats fighting in my yard and maybe the cats would sound better," probably take their music, and sarcastic comments about it, very seriously.
I'm all for having "fun." I'm also an experienced performer, and I can tell you that if you're trying to be funny with "put-down" humor, it works best when the person you're attacking is yourself (like Rodney Dangerfield) rather than your audience, which probably includes players with better gigs and better chops.
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Fair enough. I think we can agree to disagree on this one without too much problem. I too find that Rick and Buddy set the bar high enough for most of us to simply stare at.
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Fair enough. I think we can agree to disagree on this one without too much problem. I too find that Rick and Buddy set the bar high enough for most of us to simply stare at.
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If playing ability alone gave someone the right to condemn others' efforts, then I guess we could expect Buddy or Tommy White to come on here and explain that we all suck.
I wouldn't expect that to happen though. Not only would it be unconstructive, but also ungracious. As with most pros, they'd know better.
They would also understand the pitfalls of live broadcasts, and why they are not a good measure of ability.
-John
I wouldn't expect that to happen though. Not only would it be unconstructive, but also ungracious. As with most pros, they'd know better.
They would also understand the pitfalls of live broadcasts, and why they are not a good measure of ability.
-John
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It's great to be able to enjoy the super sounds of the steel guitar, even though it might not be being played by Lloyd, John Hughey, Paul or Buddy. I enjoy the sound of the steel, not only in the more traditional country music that I love, but even some of that on the newer records. Music has changed, and senior citizens like myself don't always like change. But I drive a car to work (don't ride a horse there), and accept the change. Does not mean I don't like the great old music, where steel was often king. I certainly hope that most of us can enjoy the work of steelers that are not Emmons, Franklin, Day, Newman, etc., and if they can't they are probably fairly unhappy people. As for the Opry players, I enjoyed them all, even if they are not perfect; of course, we could write letters to the artists and suggest they drop the steel players, because we think they would sound better without them. That would really help further the steel go down the drain. Just about quit coming to this page because of the negative comments. I like to feel a little better when I sign off, not get a little more depressed. But then when I look at the number of "posts" of those being so negative, perhaps it indicates they just don't have anything else to do.
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I did listen to the opry Sat. nite from about 7:30 till 9:30. I listened carefully to the ones that were on during that time, I really enjoyed them all especially Billy Walker's version of "Behind Closed Doors". The steel players, whoever they are, did a jam-up job!!! I love country music and its really an extra treat to reconize the voice as well as the steel player..GO COUNTRY...
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