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Evelyn Whitney
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Muskegon, MI 49441 USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2001 3:46 pm |
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I have a girl friend who has written some lyrics to the tune of Paper Roses and now she needs to know who the writer of that song was. She needs to know before Friday of this week as she is heading to Ohio to record a lot of origional tunes she had penned.
The only one not completely hers is the Paper Roses music.
Thanks for all the help?? She'll be using a steel guitar on her tunes.
Evelyn |
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Evelyn Whitney
From:
Muskegon, MI 49441 USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2001 3:58 pm
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| Remember the one Marie Osmond sang. Thats the one. Evelyn |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2001 4:56 pm
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Click Here, Evelyn. Roughstock.com's Cowpie Archive is probably the best site for country songs.
I'm moving this to the Music forum for further discussion. |
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Earl Foote
From:
Houston, Tx, USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2001 5:03 pm
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Daymon is correct, verfied on the Fox Agency site.
Earl Foote
Houston,Tx |
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Evelyn Whitney
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Muskegon, MI 49441 USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2001 7:14 pm
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| Thanks to all. Evelyn |
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Mark Tomeo
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Posted 12 Jun 2001 7:36 am
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Is this legit? I mean, can you legally rewrite a song - take somebody else's melody, put your own new lyrics to it, record and publish it, and then share credit with the original writer? It sounds like that's what Evelyn is asking.
I'm not talking about writing song parodies like Weird Al does, but rather using an existing song melody as a platform for your own personal poetry.
When an artist radically reinterprets an existing song, for instance the way that band has done those bluegrass versions of AC-DC songs, that's still cover music, right?
Anybody know the deal on this? |
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John Paul Jones
From:
San Diego
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Posted 12 Jun 2001 9:20 am
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The original writer(s) still own the song... lock stock and barrel.
JPJ |
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Michael Holland
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 12 Jun 2001 1:18 pm
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The publisher of the song must grant permission for the re-write.
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Evelyn Whitney
From:
Muskegon, MI 49441 USA
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Posted 12 Jun 2001 7:47 pm
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| Exactly what she is doiing. |
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 13 Jun 2001 7:49 am
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Daymon, at the risk of sounding picky, it was the Queen/David Bowie song 'Under Pressure' that he sampled for his song, that's not a rewrite, but you do have to pay and get permission for a sample.
I think there's a percentage ratio, which divides a sample from a rewrite, but to put it more simply, a sample usually comes directly from the original recording, while a rewrite is another thing, and as stated previously in this post, you have to get permission for that as well.
Sometimes it gets a little blurred.
There was a UK group who parodied the Rolling Stones with a tiny variation on one line in Ruby Tuesday, which they sang in a different meter on their own compostion.
It was a throw-away line, but the Stones sued their butts off. |
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 13 Jun 2001 12:12 pm
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| I'm not talking about writing song parodies like Weird Al does, |
Weird Al has to get permission. I remember him talking about getting written permission for a Jagger/Richards song. He got the permission, but his parody did not make the final cut for an album.
Al thought it was very funny that he had to say, "Sorry Mick, your tune didn't make it."
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John Steele (deceased)
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 13 Jun 2001 1:27 pm
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Other songs in the same vein:
"I'm thinking tonight of my blues eyes"
by the Carter family, is just like
"Wild Side of Life" by Hank Thompson... which of course was parodied by Kitty Wells when she rewrote it as "It wasn't God who made Honky Tonk Angels".
How about Hank Snow's "Movin' On" ? I've heard that melody called many different names, including "Harlem Blues" (Phineas Newborn) and the spiritual "Ain't gonna study war no more", written by that very prolific writer, "Trad".
So, there must be some way around it.
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Michael Holland
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Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 13 Jun 2001 2:06 pm
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| So there must be some way around it. |
Well, since there are only twelve tones (don't go modal on me) and millions of copyrighted songs there might be just a bit of similarity in some. How many times have we heard the 'Pink Cadillac' and 'I Feel Lucky' re-writes? Practically speaking though, only if a publisher considers that a hit song may infringe on their copyright to a point where they could convince a judge or jury to award damages would a lawsuit be initiated. Doesn't make it right, though. Character is what you do when nobody's looking.
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