Wynonna Croons into R&B World

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 6 Jun 2000 4:15 am

Todays review in the St Petersburg (Fl) Times on Wynonna's recent appearance here focuses on non-country.
Here's a sample from the article
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"Think Wynonna Judd is just a country music star? Think again. Her Sunday night concert revealed Wynonna, as she now calls herself, also is a consummate R&B performer."

It also goes to say she started the show with the Fabulous Thunderbirds' Tuff Enough and her backup band included "three sassy, soulful backup singers".

I'm glad she has found her calling, now if she would just vanish from the "country" scene her purging would be complete..

Earl Erb · Post by **Earl Erb** » 6 Jun 2000 5:25 am

Amen to that Jack.

kyle reid · Post by **kyle reid** » 6 Jun 2000 12:17 pm

Anytime you have 3or4 dancers spinning behind you, your toilet material!!!

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 6 Jun 2000 12:56 pm

This is the same gal who sang "Mama, He's Crazy" and "Grandpa". Good songs, those.

John Steele · Post by **John Steele** » 7 Jun 2000 11:40 am

Let's ask an R & B performer about that.
A real one, I mean. *snicker*
-John

Geff King · Post by **Geff King** » 7 Jun 2000 1:28 pm

Drinken Patron in Country Bar, to Band:

"HOW 'BOUT PLAY'N A LI'L WY-NONNA????!!!"

Singer:

"Ain't no such thing as a "li'l Wy-nonna..."

BJ Bailey · Post by **BJ Bailey** » 8 Jun 2000 7:45 am

Is the handle broke on the toilet?we need to flush her

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Ric Nelson · Post by **Ric Nelson** » 8 Jun 2000 12:03 pm

I thought that the Hindenburg crashed at Lakehurst, NJ in 1937?

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 12 Jun 2000 7:29 am

It's clear on this steel forum, not many like her.
It's also clear she sells records and more power to her for all her success in the business! Go Wynonna!!! Theresa

John Macy · Post by **John Macy** » 12 Jun 2000 8:39 am

I don't get it either, Theresa. They don't like her, and are downright mean about it.

My daughter plays her records all the time, and unless I am on the phone, I usually tell her to crank it. Very well made records--some of my favorite Tony Brown production work on her solo efforts. "She Is His Only Need" still kills me everytime I hear it.

A lot of my favorite country players, like Barry Beckett and Reggie Young and all those Muscle Shoals players, have really deep R&B roots. I think the feel of country and R&B have a lot in common.

And if you count the numbers on the Wynonna posts, I think it's a fairly small, but vocal minority who dislike her and feel the need for the insults.

Ric Epperle · Post by **Ric Epperle** » 12 Jun 2000 8:44 am

I've always liked the song, "He was my Strongest Weakness".. It makes a pretty steel guitar instrumental. Since there are no female singers in our group, I've worked up an instrumental of this. Nice song...

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 12 Jun 2000 2:05 pm

I have nothing against Wynona. She's probably laughing all the way to the bank.
But "R&B" is not "C&W". If I tune to a "country" station or go to a "country" concert I don't expect to hear or see James Brown or whoever singing R&B. If I wanted R&B I'd have tuned to an R&B station.

This is the crux of many of my posts and I've stated that before. I have nothing against the music and I like a lot of it. But if I want a RC and a Moon Pie, don't give me a Pepsi and whatever and tell me it is an RC and a Moon Pie...

John Steele · Post by **John Steele** » 12 Jun 2000 3:23 pm

Jack makes the point.
Further to that... I'd venture the comment that her present music cannot be marketed to an R&B crowd. They wouldn't accept it.
So they must be flogging it to people who only think they like country music. Just mho. I wish her no ill either. I just think she sucks.
-John

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 12 Jun 2000 4:19 pm

Everyone has an opinion, whatever! She'll go far and then some! Theresa

John Steele · Post by **John Steele** » 12 Jun 2000 6:26 pm

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She'll go far
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Go Wynonna!!!
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Theresa, maybe we should end on that thought; one I'm sure Jack, You and I can all support.

just teasin'

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 13 Jun 2000 2:45 am

She has gone far and I hope she keeps going and going and going.....

I have nothing against Wynona, It's just the "Wynona the country singer"...

And remember my original post was a quote from the St Petersburg Times, and what their reviewer thought.[This message was edited by Jack Stoner on 13 June 2000 at 03:46 AM.]

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 13 Jun 2000 6:22 am

I believe she is riding high solely on the name she made with the Judds. I think if she had entered into the music biz with her "Wynonna" act, she probably wouldn't be enjoying this much fame and fortune. We see examples of this with other artists on the radio all the time. They have a monster hit or two and they can put out any cr@p they want and have it hit the top ten.

I admit I do like a few of her songs. Still can't stand to watch her though.

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Mike Tatro · Post by **Mike Tatro** » 13 Jun 2000 6:42 am

First, let me say that "musical taste" is among the most personal things in the entire universe. I've always felt that ragging on music I don't personally like is like butting in on a conversation that doesn't concern me. For example, clearly rap speaks to a whole group of people - it just ain't speaking to me.

Now my main point... Am I the only person who finds one-dimensional singers kind of boring? Personally, I don't care nearly as much about a person's chops (e.g., ability to hit high notes) as I do their artistic integrity. I need to believe that they believe, if you know what I mean.

For that singular reason, I'm hard pressed to think of a single "vocalist" that I really care about. That goes for Shania, Lee Ann, either Judd, and most of the new crop of male himbos as well.

Brad Paisely seems to really beleive in what he's saying, as does Mary Chapin Carpenter, Shawn Colvin and a few others.

Wynona is just a Vegas act. All hype and no substance. However, in that regard she's swimming in a great big pond with most other modern "artists." I use the term "artist" as loosely as possible.

Curmudgeon siging out.

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 13 Jun 2000 10:53 am

From a Time magazine article on the popular music business, glossary of industry words:

Artist: Any performer, regardless of ability.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 13 Jun 2000 2:02 pm

I have musician friends who attended her recent show here in Santa Rosa and were very impressed. They've been raving about it for weeks. I wonder how many of her critics here have actually seen her perform...

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 13 Jun 2000 2:38 pm

I just heard Wynonna's new release, true it's not country.
I truly love the Judd's.
Wynonna is still being played on country radio because of her roots. Bottom line she's versatile, like a musican should be.

Also to be put down for being over weight, is lame. It has nothing to do with the music, and you complain if they look to thin.

It's a no win! Theresa

bob drawbaugh · Post by **bob drawbaugh** » 13 Jun 2000 5:54 pm

Theresa, You said you heard Wynonna's new song. You stated it was not country. It's not country but Country Radio will still play it. We will not hear the DJs say it's to R&B. But we hear all the time about very good country singers that are told they are too country. I for one don't get it? Of course there are a lot of things I don't get. Like why do I have to pay more for unleaded gas?

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 14 Jun 2000 7:49 am

Bob,
I wonder who's saying what on radio? Wynonna was country with the Judd's, she's trying something different. Theresa

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 14 Jun 2000 8:52 am

Here's something else to throw in the pot. What if we just had "music" radio stations instead of Easy Listening, Country, Cool Jazz, R&B, etc. Think about it.

Music is music, but it has to be put in some category and the radio stations align themselves with a certain category and in most cases generally you can listen to them and except for "country" you will hear only that category of music.

Many ad sponsers have certain products or services they want to aim at a particular audience (race, age, etc). They will advertise those specific products or services on stations that have that audience. The radio station's audience is determined by the category of music they present. If radio stations only played "music" it would be a dilemma for the advertisers.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 14 Jun 2000 3:27 pm

I keep my dial on NPR for that very reason, Jack. They don't respect musical boundaries. One show will be classical, and the next will be bluegrass. The DJs are all real fans of whatever kind of music they play.

There are very few commercials. They interview artists and have live shows. NPR stations sure beat the stations that brag about being "country", IMHO!