Jimmy Days Sho-Bud Super Pro II Blue Darlin' VI
- Ricky Davis
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Hey W Franco.....after filing Bankruptcy in October; I have nothing left to Mortgage...ha....>but I wouldn't want it anyway> like Russ said.
Also; out of all the Sho-bud's Jimmy had; he like the last Blue Darlin' the best and it was a Mullen....ah..ha...and of course the one he played the most was the one Kevin Owens has now and it was a permanent.
This SuperPro~II is very unique inthat; there was not very many of them built and were really a completely different design mechanically from all previous Sho-buds.
Jimmy would want this particular steel to go to somebody that will play it and play the He!! out of it; as he would put it; and not sit under the bed or to sit in a corner to admire. Jimmy always considered himself just a regular musician; just like the rest of us...and to not fret over the small stuff> JUST PLAY.
Ricky
Also; out of all the Sho-bud's Jimmy had; he like the last Blue Darlin' the best and it was a Mullen....ah..ha...and of course the one he played the most was the one Kevin Owens has now and it was a permanent.
This SuperPro~II is very unique inthat; there was not very many of them built and were really a completely different design mechanically from all previous Sho-buds.
Jimmy would want this particular steel to go to somebody that will play it and play the He!! out of it; as he would put it; and not sit under the bed or to sit in a corner to admire. Jimmy always considered himself just a regular musician; just like the rest of us...and to not fret over the small stuff> JUST PLAY.
Ricky
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Some other interesting things to note about this guitar.
Looking at the photos, notice the Emmons style neck switches between the necks,the rod pullers appear to be an MSA type split center pulls with maybe 5 pull rod holes. Also possibly square cross shafts supported by a center cross shaft bracket with bushings,(like MSA's and Mullen)? The knee levers are 3 sided square angle. The bell cranks and cross shafts appear to be mounted to solid aluminum front rail bracket like many modern manufactures' do not individually drilled and screwed to the front of the frame rail.
I not sure I would want to own this guitar (to much enigma around it like owning a John Lennon guitar or such), but I sure would like to have a short while to play it and examine it. Truly a unique instrument in a class by itself.
CAB
Looking at the photos, notice the Emmons style neck switches between the necks,the rod pullers appear to be an MSA type split center pulls with maybe 5 pull rod holes. Also possibly square cross shafts supported by a center cross shaft bracket with bushings,(like MSA's and Mullen)? The knee levers are 3 sided square angle. The bell cranks and cross shafts appear to be mounted to solid aluminum front rail bracket like many modern manufactures' do not individually drilled and screwed to the front of the frame rail.
I not sure I would want to own this guitar (to much enigma around it like owning a John Lennon guitar or such), but I sure would like to have a short while to play it and examine it. Truly a unique instrument in a class by itself.
CAB
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All Super Pro IIs are built this way Chris. This one is not unique except for Jimmy's setup and the older style pedals that I furnished the assembaly people in Magazine Arkansas when it was built in 1984.(This one also does not have the original "SP-II" pickups, but this shouldn't matter as it does have good units on it).
One thing that is different from all the other "A" model SP-IIs is that Jimmy's had aluminum necks. All others had Birdseye necks. There were only seven of the "A" models ever built. (28 "B" modles that were quite different) I know where most of them are and have owned some of them, and of course have an imaculate tobacco colored one now.
The bridge on Jimmy's (now Mr.Bruce Fischer's)is identical to the wood neck guitars, so, there is no difference in tone between these SP-II guitars.
Other owners of these guitars now are: Dan Dougmore, Doug Jernigan, myself, and three Japaneese owners, and of course this Jimmy Day guitar, now owned by Mr. Bruce Fischer.
This guitar has a great history as Jimmy's guitar as he DID play it for a very good while and the fact that it was the most supreme Sho-Bud ever designed makes it as valuable as any Sho-Bud ever. As a player guitar, it has to be wonderful, as the all were but one,(#4 but it is in Japan now).
There are many features on this guitar that most folks don't even realize are there.
Some wonderful steel guitar ideas that are sure to "be invented" in the future by some company that doesn't know that this guitar already has them and was far ahead of it's time.
This Blue SP-II looks to be 100% stock, the way it left the "factory" assembly area.
I only hope someone gets it that knows what he or she has, This is a true landmark guitar for players or collectors. The value? More than any Sho-Bud I can think of.
Bobbe <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 25 November 2005 at 06:37 PM.]</p></FONT><font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 25 November 2005 at 06:49 PM.]</p></FONT><font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 25 November 2005 at 06:57 PM.]</p></FONT>
One thing that is different from all the other "A" model SP-IIs is that Jimmy's had aluminum necks. All others had Birdseye necks. There were only seven of the "A" models ever built. (28 "B" modles that were quite different) I know where most of them are and have owned some of them, and of course have an imaculate tobacco colored one now.
The bridge on Jimmy's (now Mr.Bruce Fischer's)is identical to the wood neck guitars, so, there is no difference in tone between these SP-II guitars.
Other owners of these guitars now are: Dan Dougmore, Doug Jernigan, myself, and three Japaneese owners, and of course this Jimmy Day guitar, now owned by Mr. Bruce Fischer.
This guitar has a great history as Jimmy's guitar as he DID play it for a very good while and the fact that it was the most supreme Sho-Bud ever designed makes it as valuable as any Sho-Bud ever. As a player guitar, it has to be wonderful, as the all were but one,(#4 but it is in Japan now).
There are many features on this guitar that most folks don't even realize are there.
Some wonderful steel guitar ideas that are sure to "be invented" in the future by some company that doesn't know that this guitar already has them and was far ahead of it's time.
This Blue SP-II looks to be 100% stock, the way it left the "factory" assembly area.
I only hope someone gets it that knows what he or she has, This is a true landmark guitar for players or collectors. The value? More than any Sho-Bud I can think of.
Bobbe <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 25 November 2005 at 06:37 PM.]</p></FONT><font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 25 November 2005 at 06:49 PM.]</p></FONT><font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 25 November 2005 at 06:57 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Anyone wanting to examine a "Super Pro II" can let me know in advance and I'll have mine at my store in Nashville for anyone to play and check out.
Pretty interesting works of art they are. A shame it was killed by the Grestch co. because "there were too many different Sho-Bud Models" when the Sho-Bud co. was moved to Ridgeland from Nashville.
The standard "Super -Pro" was much easier to build I was told by the marketing boys in 1984.
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Pretty interesting works of art they are. A shame it was killed by the Grestch co. because "there were too many different Sho-Bud Models" when the Sho-Bud co. was moved to Ridgeland from Nashville.
The standard "Super -Pro" was much easier to build I was told by the marketing boys in 1984.
Bobbe <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 25 November 2005 at 06:46 PM.]</p></FONT>
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I bought one of these new. It was a great guitar and I really regret trading it in on another guitar that is now long gone. My guitar has surfaced twice at Bobbes and I keep running into road players who say they had a chance to play it. The last time mine was on the market, Bobbe very graciously offered it to me for what he had in it. I just didn't have the money or it would be home in Texas now.
edit: I don't know if he still has it, but Steve Lamb had one of these too maybe six years or so ago.
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Steve Stallings
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edit: I don't know if he still has it, but Steve Lamb had one of these too maybe six years or so ago.
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Steve Stallings
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Steve, yours was the "B" model, it was a little different but just as great a steel guitar, The first seven were called the "A" models, The "A"s had the roller cam mechanics and didn't have the webbed changer axle. In some ways I liked the "B"s better, but there were several more of the B models built. I think there were 27 "B"s and only seven of the original "A"s with the Roller changer and the full aluminum undercarrage.
The one Steve Lamb and you had were "B"s.
Jimmy's is the "A".
The "B" guitars are still very valuable and I'll take all I can get, (no kidding! Ha!)
Steve, yours was a very nice one and the only one made that color so I was told. Kinda wish I still had it also, but I can't keep everything.
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The one Steve Lamb and you had were "B"s.
Jimmy's is the "A".
The "B" guitars are still very valuable and I'll take all I can get, (no kidding! Ha!)
Steve, yours was a very nice one and the only one made that color so I was told. Kinda wish I still had it also, but I can't keep everything.
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A little history here that no one has asked for:
The "B" models were made to use up the bodies and several parts that would have been discarded if a use couldn't be found for them after the move was made to discontinue the SP-II model,
So the "B" model was designed to use up the great SP-II bodies, using the regular production plain Super Pro changers, wood necks, and chrome Zinc undercarrage. The "B" end castings were the same as the "A"s, but weren't milled (finned) on the exterior surfaces like the "A"s. These guitars worked out great, but I missed the "roller changers" of the original seven "A" models.
The single neck SP-IIs were going to be named the "Old Hickory" models, but only one was ever built, it went to Gene Williamson in Silva NC in 1984 (fall). He has since sold it. It was transparent Red Birds eye, Value now? Wow, who knows! <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 27 November 2005 at 06:02 PM.]</p></FONT>
The "B" models were made to use up the bodies and several parts that would have been discarded if a use couldn't be found for them after the move was made to discontinue the SP-II model,
So the "B" model was designed to use up the great SP-II bodies, using the regular production plain Super Pro changers, wood necks, and chrome Zinc undercarrage. The "B" end castings were the same as the "A"s, but weren't milled (finned) on the exterior surfaces like the "A"s. These guitars worked out great, but I missed the "roller changers" of the original seven "A" models.
The single neck SP-IIs were going to be named the "Old Hickory" models, but only one was ever built, it went to Gene Williamson in Silva NC in 1984 (fall). He has since sold it. It was transparent Red Birds eye, Value now? Wow, who knows! <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 27 November 2005 at 06:02 PM.]</p></FONT>
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