The Steel Guitar Forum

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 19 Feb 2003 2:44 am

Nice example Jeff.... Interesting use of the "open" E string in the chords G6-Gdim-D9.
Playing a D and B underneath the E, then down a step and then another.(It's an OLD OLD trick from the late 30's)but flawlessly executed !!!

BTW the clip downloaded in 18 seconds from my new server.
Mahalo Nui
Baz
www.waikiki-islanders.com [This message was edited by basilh on 19 February 2003 at 02:45 AM.]

Todd Weger · Post by **Todd Weger** » 19 Feb 2003 5:20 am

Remember when musicianship like this was commonplace?

Dang, Jeff... THAT is some sweet stuff! If I could find players around here that:

1. Could play with that type of enthusiasm in their sound, and;

2. Actually could dig playing this kind of material and style...

I'd be in hog heaven playing in a band like that!

There is a market (albeit, limited) around here for that, but finding like-minded cats that get it is next to impossible. So, I put together my own uke/bass backing tracks (not synth sequenced -- actual mini-disc recordings with me playing all the parts), and do the gigs as a solo playing steel and singing to my tracks.

Unfortunately, although it works, and sounds surprisingly organic, it's just not nearly as fulfilling as playing it live, with other musicians.

Sigh....

Thanks for posting that. I have a BIG smile on my face as I write this and listen again!

TJW

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Todd James Weger/RD/RTD
1956 Fender Stringmaster T-8 (C6, E13, B11); 1960 Fender Stringmaster D-8 (C6, E13); Melobar SLS lapsteel (open D); Chandler RH-4 Koa semi-hollow lapsteel (open G); Regal resonator (open D or G)

Mike Neer · Post by **Mike Neer** » 19 Feb 2003 7:45 am

Thank you, sir, may we have some more?

Rick Aiello · Post by **Rick Aiello** » 19 Feb 2003 7:56 am

Now lets go WAY back in time and listen to Sol Hoopii play/sing the same song....

Early Version

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Bob Stone · Post by **Bob Stone** » 19 Feb 2003 8:04 am

Thanks Jeff and Rick.

Both masterfully played and each distinctively different.

Gerald Ross · Post by **Gerald Ross** » 19 Feb 2003 8:51 am

Todd - Jeff,

Come to Ann Arbor and I'll play this style of music with you. I've spent years playing in a swing bands and actually ENJOY playing this kind of music (in fact I have a gig tonight playing this type of material).

Many musicians think that rhythm guitar is just killing time until it's your turn to solo. They are misguided narrow minded individuals.
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Wait a minute... come to the HSGA Joliet convention. We play this style of music 24/7 for three days solid!
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The MP3 Jeff provided is a prime example of why I wanted to learn the Hawaiian steel.

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

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Todd Weger · Post by **Todd Weger** » 19 Feb 2003 9:59 am

Gerald -- thanks for that mighty inviting offer, but I moved to Florida FROM the upper midwest (The People's Republic of Madison, Wisconsin). I got tired of cold weather 8 months of the year.

Hey! I know... why don't you come down here to Florida!? Or, better yet -- let's you and I relocate to Hawaii?

I think my wife would agree to that!

BTW, where do you normally play this type of music there in the Ann Arbor area? Is it a private gig, or do you find work in clubs there doing this style?

TJW

Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 19 Feb 2003 9:59 am

Never Mind...

Sounds great Jeff and Rick. Thanks[This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 19 February 2003 at 04:59 PM.]

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 19 Feb 2003 10:07 am

Great Tune Jeff

Page Wood · Post by **Page Wood** » 19 Feb 2003 10:21 am

Nice! Thanks Jeff and Rick- love the song, love the playing- but I really like... HER!
MORE...!!

Gerald Ross · Post by **Gerald Ross** » 19 Feb 2003 11:32 am

Todd,
Tonight I have a gig at a local upscale restaurant called "The Earle". Background music gig where I play my fingerstyle Swing/Blues instrumentals (you don't want to hear me sing). Easy gig, two miles from home, 8-10 PM, audience looks and smells nice.

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website

Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 19 Feb 2003 11:48 am

Jeff and Rick:

You made my day. That is fun to hear.

more..more...MORE

what kinda steel is Sol playing? Sounds like a National(?)

Rick Aiello · Post by **Rick Aiello** » 19 Feb 2003 12:05 pm

Thats "Electro Sol" ... frypan

<pre>

Pidgin English Hula (3:06)
Sol Hoopii And His Novelty Quartette:
Sol Hoopii, esg, v;
Los Angeles, CA, c. 03/35,
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Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 19 Feb 2003 1:04 pm

Basilh, could you please tell where abouts the open E string G6-Gdim-D9 is at. I keep missing it. I hope it wasn't in the intro, I thought I heard the rhythm section going down in pitch while the steel was going up? Thanks...

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 19 Feb 2003 1:09 pm

Jesse, I'll get back with you in a couple of hours.... just watching the last two episodes of "Stargate"
Baz

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 19 Feb 2003 1:45 pm

Between 9 and 11 seconds in.
Baz

Jesse Pearson · Post by **Jesse Pearson** » 19 Feb 2003 2:09 pm

Basilh, is that during the intro or when the singing starts?

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 19 Feb 2003 4:02 pm

During the intro.... 9 seconds from the start

Ray Montee · Post by **Ray Montee** » 19 Feb 2003 7:33 pm

Gerald.........when is that Joliet Convention and about how many people attend the event? How do they select the players?
Are there many unknowns that carry the show?
Are there many pedal players from the c/w scene participating. What kind of costs are associated with attendance?

Ray Montee · Post by **Ray Montee** » 19 Feb 2003 7:59 pm

Hey Jeff! Thanx for the MP.3. I've been listening to two CD's by this lovely lady with the sensational voice for the last two weeks and at the very time I was reading your fine post, but...........since the CD's documentation is all written in Japanese, I had no idea WHO this beautiful voice belonged to. What a timely enlightenment!

Has she recorded any other CD's, albums during more recent times? Any idea who the steel player might be on them?

And what might you be able to share with us from your huge mental data base and research library..........about "Lion"....
Kiyoshi Kobayashi? How would you describe
his style and playing expertise? He plays pedal steel does he not, in his Hawaiian music or am I wrong?

And Rick, ole boy.....the Sol Hoopi cut was refeshing. Do you collect his old stuff?
I think I might have an old THICK RCA VICTOR
of him from eons ago......really a long, long time back.

Keep the good stuff coming there Jeff! We all appreciate your keen insight into this wonderful music. You are a living treasure, to be sure.[This message was edited by Ray Montee on 19 February 2003 at 08:03 PM.]

Alan Michael · Post by **Alan Michael** » 19 Feb 2003 8:04 pm

Jeff and Rick...thanks so much, I love this stuff. Where do I find recordings by Sol Hoopii?

George Keoki Lake · Post by **George Keoki Lake** » 19 Feb 2003 8:41 pm

Skip...the HSGA conventions are open to all members (and often non-members who soon become members). They try to work everyone in on stage during the 3 days. All you have to do is to advise them well ahead of time that you want to play on stage and you will be allotted about 25 minute to do your 'thing' with a great rhythm backup. It's wise to bring along 4 or 5 copies of chord charts for every song you plan to play...that way, everyone will be playing what you want them to play and not wandering around in the dark. It's a great convention and I am surprised you have never attended. You'll knock 'em dead !Make it a "must" on your "what to do in retirement" list. I have attended about 8 conventions in the past and each was a great experience.
P.S....While they won't turn away a pedal player, they do prefer "lap" and primarily Hawaiian music.[This message was edited by George Keoki Lake on 19 February 2003 at 08:42 PM.]

Rick Aiello · Post by **Rick Aiello** » 19 Feb 2003 9:22 pm

Alan ...

Sol Hoopii: Master of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar Vol 1 & 2 .... is a good place to start. I like Vol. 2 better than 1.

http://www.venerablemusic.com/FolkRecordPages/ROU_1024.htm

"Waikiki is good enough for Me" ... a 188 song mp3 CD has a bunch of Sol Hoopii, Andy Iona, Dick McIntire, King Benny, etc ...

http://www.beerrecords.com/waikiki.htm

I have "nagged" Bruce Clarke for a year to do his Radio Transcriptions Of "Electro Sol" ... he promises it's up next ...

www.cumquatrecords.com.au

That should get you started ...

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Gerald Ross · Post by **Gerald Ross** » 20 Feb 2003 7:04 am

Ray,

Here is a link to a previous discussion about the HSGA Joliet convention. This year's convention is scheduled for October 2-4, 2003.
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/002361.html

You'll have a wonderful time there. Joliet is just outside of Chicago. It's a very easy drive from O'Hare airport and shuttle service is available. One nice thing about the convention is the fact that all attendees stay at the Holiday Inn for the entire 3 days making late night jam sessions and socializing very easy.

The HSGA gets a special rate on rooms at the hotel, approximately $65 a night. Admission to the convention is about $25-30. The Saturday night catered luau with stage show (optional but highly recommended) is an additional $20-25. All in all a great value for your money. Many of the "No Peddler" forumites attend. Hope to see you there.

The sign up sheet for stage slots will be available in the spring 2003 HSGA Quarterly.

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website