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Allen Peterson

 

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Katy, Texas
Post  Posted 8 Aug 2002 6:49 pm    
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Can someone tab a B13th chord on the C6 neck for me? I don't understand enough theory on this neck to figure it out on my own. The song I'm trying to learn is Clint Black's "Put Yourself in My Shoes." I think the progression in the verse goes:
A6 B13 D A A6 B13 D A D C#7 F#m B7 A B7 F9 E9 A
I can play a B13 on a six string but can't seem to find it on the C6 neck. Thanks.
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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 8 Aug 2002 6:57 pm    
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Allen,

Try pedals 5 and 7 together, at the 9th fret (2 frets below "home base"). Your 10th string will be your root (B) and you can play all 10 strings if you want to, though I usually play only as high up as the 4th string, to keep the 13th on top.

Cheers,
Jimbeaux


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[This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 08 August 2002 at 07:58 PM.]

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CrowBear Schmitt


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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2002 1:17 am    
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on Buddy E's Basic C6 a 13 chord can be gotten using pedal 5 and Knee lever that lowers B to C on 3rd string or like Jim C says: ped 5+7.
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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2002 6:52 am    
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The most common voicing of a B 13th chord is
G# (13th)
D# (3rd)
A (7th)
Using only standard pedals here are some:

D ----------6-----------------------
E --3(6-----------------------------
C --3---------------8---------------
A ----------6-----------------------
G --3(5-------------8---------------
E ----------6(6---------------------
C ------------------8(8-------------
A ----------------------------------
F ----------------------------------
C ----------------------------------
And here are 3 more that differ only in how you play the G#:

D ----------------------------------
E ----------------------------------
C ---9(K----------------------------
A -----------9(4-----9(7------------
G ---9(5-----9-------9--------------
E ----------------------------------
C ---9-------9-------9--------------
A ----------------------------------
F ----------------------------------
C ----------------------------------


I haven't listened to the Clint Black record you mentioned, so maybe these don't apply there.
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Jeff Lampert

 

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queens, new york city
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2002 9:13 am    
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Many players have a D note as their top string on C6. If you do, then you can get a B13 at the 6th fret, using floor pedal 6, which raises the 2nd string and lowers the 6th string. The 1st string gives you the 13 note of the B13 chord, the 9th string the tonic, the 4th/8th strings the 3rd, and the 6th string the b7. All strings can be played.
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Allen Peterson

 

From:
Katy, Texas
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2002 12:10 pm    
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Thanks guys. I tried all the versions of the B13 chord each of you have prescribed and they all work. Jeff, I do have the D string on top and the 6th pedal does make an effective 13th chord. Since this tune begins with A6 and moves next to the B13, I will probably stick to the various versions of the B13 chord on the 9th fret. Since this is a blues tune, I can pick the blues scale for the fills. I was just trying to round out the fills with the 13th chord and all these work great. Thanks again.
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Dave Birkett

 

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Oxnard, CA, USA
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2002 1:01 pm    
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I haven't heard the recording or the song in question, but it's very unusual to see a II13 in a country song. I'd bet the only person hitting the G# for any length of time is the singer.

[This message was edited by Dave Birkett on 09 August 2002 at 05:51 PM.]

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Allen Peterson

 

From:
Katy, Texas
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2002 2:21 pm    
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Dave,
You're probably right. The song is not a country tune though. It is more of a blues/swing tune. Its starts out with Clint Black playing a tasty blues intro with a blues harp. It then has some great blues licks on the C6 behind the vocal. I am not sure if Jeff Peterson played on this song or not. Sounds like him though. I don't think I would classify this as country at all. I have to (probably should say get to) back up a singer (not Clint Black) on the 14th of September and this just happens to be the song he's singing. Probably wouldn't be my first choice, but its kind of a fun song.
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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2002 4:04 pm    
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Aw, Allen. Why din'cha jus' tell us you wanted to talk to Jeff Peterson? He's around here and I'm sure he can show ya exactly what you want to know for that song, whether he recorded it originally or not.

[This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 09 August 2002 at 05:04 PM.]

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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 10 Aug 2002 1:22 am    
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I believe Jeff recording on most all if not all songs with Clint Black.
Jeff has been there from the start with Clint and should be commended on that and Clint should be commended on using his long time steel player on the sessions too.
Sorry I'm off topic(don't know the song)...but I think that's so cool that Jeff is right in there fight'n and grind'n to keep it real.
Ricky
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Allen Peterson

 

From:
Katy, Texas
Post  Posted 10 Aug 2002 6:19 am    
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Jim,
You're probably right. I should have just gone to the source. However, I can play most of the licks on this song because they are not too complicated. The guy that is singing it gave me this lead sheet and it had that danged B13 chord on it and I didn't have a clue where to find it on the C6 neck.

Ricky,
No problem going off topic with this. Jeff has been one of my favorite players ever since I first heard him play during one of the breaks at a Newman seminar in the early 80s. He just happened to show up and sat down at Newman's steel and started playing these wonderful things. This was before the Clint Black gig happened for him. I doubt he even remembers. He was great then and he still is.
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