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Ron Whitfield

 

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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2003 7:28 pm    
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Fry pans are notorious for the overtone 'problem', in particular the hollow necks. Who has experience in having worked around it or with it? Any success in making it musical? Peddlers thread suggested weaving an O ring thru the strings behind the nut to kill/mute the OTs, anybody try it on an FP? Anything similar with other steels? Other thots on this subject?

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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2003 7:45 pm    
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One man's ... "Problem" ....

Is another's "God-Send" ...

In my opinion .... the hollow neck/lightweight Ricky Frypan is THE ultimate steel for that '30's sound ...

This "Hollow" sound is the main difference between my '34 and my JB (w/ the "Big Shoes")....

If you must ... stuff the neck with handtowels ... I read Dick McIntire filled his with sand ....

Better yet .... send it to me ... I'll be glad to trade you for a more "solid/lush" sounding steel !!!!

Now my Silver Hawaiians were alittle harsh ... but beach towels shoved up there did the trick ...

Yeah buddy : Tricones ... Frypans ... Silvers ...

"Hollow, Metal and Lovin' it"

I even like the Model 59 and the Model NS

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[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 11 February 2003 at 01:01 PM.]

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C Dixon

 

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Duluth, GA USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2003 10:06 am    
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Mega-dittos



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Ron Whitfield

 

From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2003 1:34 pm    
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Pertaining to the only FP example I've owned, the OTs were not thruout the neck but a few selected spots and would appear sporadically. If this is consistant with your experiences, how do you make this interesting quirk work for you?

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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2003 2:13 pm    
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Stuff it ...

... With terry cloth hand towels ... to more evenly distribute the energy throughout the neck ...

Since readin' this ... I've been thinkin' of a way to get a more uniform distribution of energy ... without doing any harm to such a fine instrument ... for a more even response "across the board" ...

Take out the pickup assembly .... take some 100% Silicon (bathroom tube/tile) ... seal up the neck/body hole .... file with your favorite beach sand (the finer the better)from the top .... cap off the top with another Silicon plug ...

Solid neck

Then to return it to original state (if need arises)... Peal out the plugs ... pour out the sand ... back to "Hollowsville".

I have read that Adolph R. liked the EARLIEST ones ... with the solid necks ... the best ...

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 03 February 2003 at 02:26 PM.]

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Jeff Au Hoy


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Honolulu, Hawai'i
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2003 2:37 pm    
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Bill Creller

 

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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2003 5:29 pm    
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I don"t know about stuffing the neck with anything that will absorb and hold moisture. Bobby Ingano mentioned to me once about a frypan with severe corrosion in the neck, with plaster of paris in it, but he has seen them with news papers packed in the neck also also.
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2003 6:16 pm    
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Excellent point ... Sensei ...

If you like the sound with wash cloths ... then the Si caps w/ sand should keep out that nasty moisture ...

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Ron Whitfield

 

From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2003 9:49 pm    
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I'm looking more for individual reports of successful results in conquering the OT beast, or at least making friends with it, than a solution to the 'non' problem. However, I did find improvement with my '37 A22 after packing the neck with 'Kleen Klay'(plastic modeling clay). I thot this would be the safest, easiest, most consistant and complete filler possible, even with the light moisture factor, which I believed in this case would be negligible. In the end, it left my hands sounding even better(to me), but it won the war as I was never able to completely eliminate the OTs or tame it. Jeff, about the sand, I've got Waikiki Beach sand in the cavities of my B8(no, NOT loose)to even out the vibrations. Yes, it's heavy, and it worked(a little), but it's coming out soon in favor of a bass 'Fatfinger'. Yeah, that's the ticket! Would have liked to had one to try on the fry pan. And Bill, that was Dick McIntire's fry pans that had the plaster in the necks and bodys, all probably to rot eventually.

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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 4 Feb 2003 4:23 am    
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Sorry ... The O ring "thing" put my mind in "fix it" mode ...

I don't exactly understand what you are/were askin' for ... .... "over my head" ...

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 04 February 2003 at 04:48 AM.]

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