Lloyd's echo lick?

Don Sulesky · Post by **Don Sulesky** » 2 Sep 1999 7:33 am

Ricky your pretty good at this.
I saw Lloyd a few years ago at the PSGA show play Secret Love
and he was throwing in these echo notes.
If you know how he does this could you tab out a line for us.
Thanks,
Don

Kevin Walker · Post by **Kevin Walker** » 2 Sep 1999 8:45 am

Don,
I use those echo lines occassionally. They're pretty simple. Just put your bar on any given note, say for example, the fourth string at the third fret, pick that note and slide to your matching note on fifth string, then on sixth string, then on seventh, etc., depending on how far you want to go. It has to be done quickly and accurately to make the echo effect sound right. I'm not saying that this is the way Lloyd Green does it by any means, but this works for me.
Good Luck,
,Kevin

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 2 Sep 1999 8:59 am

Hey Don; there is also a technique Lloyd uses that is really hard to explain without showing you. It is a combination of muting with the side of his hand right at the changer and picking it with the hand half muting. Then it is a matter of the effect of repeats all done in the right timing. Are we giging anywhere near you on this run? If so; I can show you if you come out. If not; then just mess with that a little and see if you can't make that sound you hear. Hope that helps; cause this one is really hard to explain and tab, cause it is more of a technique than a lick.
Ricky

Bud Harger · Post by **Bud Harger** » 2 Sep 1999 10:55 am

Don,

Johnny Cox posted a reply to my exact question some months ago, when I asked him about the 'echo' licks on his new CD. You might pull up those replies from the Main Forum. There were some good replies to that one on the Forum. It takes practice to get "echos" to sound the same in timing and in the extent of "slide". If I can do it, anybody can do it.

Here is a simple little lead-in lick that I use (or over-use) for a melody line (e.g. Healing Hands of Time) that uses a little different technique from the progressive slide. The first two notes are "echos"; followed by some repeating "echo-type" notes, then goes back to the original starting place of the lick. There are many variations.

<pre>
E9th Tuning
Key of G

1 _______________________________________________________________
2 _______________________________________________________________
3 _______________________________________________________________
4 _______________________________________________________________
5 ______________________3__________________3_____________________
6 _________________________~5b~3b__~3b_~3________________________
7 _______________________________________________________________
8 _______________________________________________________________
9 _______________________________________________________________
10_______________________________________________________________
1 ' 2 ' 3 ' 4 ' 1 ' 2 ' 3 ' 4
D ~D ~C ~C ~B D
</pre>

The first echo note is produced by depressing the 'b' pedal as you reach the 5th fret. The second note played at the 3rd fret on the 6th string, is preceded by momentarily letting off the 'b' pedal and re-engaging it for a "slide" sound.

Remember this is only the lead-in line of the melody, which continues on in the open "G" position.

Let me know what you think.
[This message was edited by Bud Harger on 09-02-99]

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 2 Sep 1999 9:09 pm

If anyone knows where Johnny's earlier answer to this is hiding, please let me know. I tried searching for it tonite, but came up emptyhanded.
thx,
jc

Bud Harger · Post by **Bud Harger** » 3 Sep 1999 4:21 am

Jim, I posted the question to Johnny in May or so, but I am unable to locate it, too. I think the historical file must have been purged and is not available in the 'search' function.

Kevin Walker's response is right on with the responses in that post. There are many variations. You might try to post this question on the Bar Chatter Forum.

Not all of the members check this site regularly.

Best regards,

Bud

Don Sulesky · Post by **Don Sulesky** » 6 Sep 1999 5:11 am

Thanks loads guys.
I'll try these out now that I'm over a bout with the flu.
Can you imagine that the flu in Florida.
I thought I left that up North.
Ricky, I'm about 80 miles north of Tampa.
We have Lorrie Morgan and Geogre Jones coming in November about 5 miles from my home at the Rock Crusher Canyon. What a place if you ever get a chance to play there.
Don[This message was edited by Don Sulesky on 09-06-99]