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Topic: Help me identify a player, please! |
Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 9:38 am |
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| I have a recording of an unbelievable boogie tune, ca. 1950s, which was the impetus for me to play steel in the first place, yet I don't know the song title or the player (an unlabeled tape given to me by an old friend). Would anyone care to take a crack at it? Email me and I'll send a small mp3 clip. Thanks in advance. |
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Roy Ayres
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Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 10:51 am
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| Possibly "Boggs Boogie" by Noel Boggs. |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 11:02 am
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| No, that's not it, but I love that one. No this one has steel, two guitars and a fddle solo. The steel player is the lead instrument and he does bar slams and Travis-picking in his solo. |
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Brad Bechtel
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San Francisco, CA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 11:58 am
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Mike, send me a copy and I'll do my best to identify it.
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Brad's Page of Steel
A web site devoted to acoustic & electric lap steel guitars
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 1:00 pm
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I've received the file, but I'm unable to identify the steel guitarist. The MP3 file will be stored temporarily in this location.
Can anybody else tell who this is? Good playing, whoever it is. |
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Dave Birkett
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Oxnard, CA, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 1:08 pm
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| I don't know who it is but it's great stuff! Maybe Ernie could send it to Buddy as he might know. It sounds like a Fender to me, so maybe Herb, Billy or Bobby? |
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Billy Easton
From:
Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 1:12 pm
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That is none other than a very young Buddy Emmons playing "Buddy's Boogie". I have that cut on an old 8 track, entitled "Teenage Creations"
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Billy Easton
Casa Grande, AZ
Southwestern Steel Guitar Association
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 1:24 pm
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Thank you Billy! I had always thought it was Speedy until I found the tape again after not hearing it for about 10 years, and then I realized it wasn't.
Thanks to everyone who participated--you made my day. |
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Dave Birkett
From:
Oxnard, CA, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 1:44 pm
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| What tuning would that be? |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 2:33 pm
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Sounds like E9 to me
G#
E
B
G#
F#
E
D
B
G#
E
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Jim Smith
From:
Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 4:27 pm
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| Buddy plays it on C6 now, and I assume he played it on C6 then too. I think it's done in the key of F. |
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Roy Ayres
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Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 5:02 pm
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That's a fantastic bit of playing. I think he was using a C6 tuning, G on top, and it was in the key of G. My resoning is this:
One passage he uses is one I used to play and the only way I ever found to do it was to play the first two strings open together with strings 3 and 4 with the bar on the second fret -- for a 4-note chord. Then move the bar down to the first fret playing the first 4 strings again, then play the first four strings open. Then do the pattern in reverse bringing you back to the starting point. I used an A6 tuning with the same voicing as the usual C6, and I used the lick when playing in the key of E. So, since G is to C as E is to A, he would be in the key of G if he was tuned C6.
Clear as mud, eh? You guys got that? If not, call me and I'll hum it to you. |
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Dave Birkett
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Oxnard, CA, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 5:30 pm
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| It's definitely got a low E. I hope Buddy sees this and can tell us. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 5:45 pm
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I had assumed pedals but now I don't hear any. It could be an 8-string:
E
B
G#
F#
D
B
G#
E
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 8:32 pm
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well, i'm ashamed to say i didn't recognize it, despite having had it in my collection for 25 years.
it was the flip side of "raisin' the dickens", as released on columbia 45 rpm 40810--released near the end of 1956.
wasn't buddy on a bigsby by that time?
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2003 8:50 pm
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Looks like we're all right!  Check out the "Buddie's Boogie" posts between Buddy and Herb Steiner on the "Ask Buddy" page about 11 lines down the page:
http://www.buddyemmons.com/board_toc.htm
Here's Buddy's description:
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The E9th tuning for the head and a couple of solos was E, B, G#, F#, D, B, G#, E. Pedal one raised strings 2 and 3 to C# and A and pedal two raised strings 5, 6, and 7 to E, C#, and A. There was a bit of bar chicanery at the first and second fret with open strings that may have added a little mystery to the sound of the tuning. I'd long forgotten about it so maybe I can use it on something in St. Louis.  The 6th solo was on C6th, probably with a G on the bottom. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 31 Jan 2003 12:51 am
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| "chicanery" is this a secret technique revealed ? |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 31 Jan 2003 1:02 am
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We're all in a wrong forum, it was done on a Bigsby pedal steel, yuk, yuk  [This message was edited by Jussi Huhtakangas on 31 January 2003 at 03:40 AM.] |
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Andy Zynda
From:
Wisconsin
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Posted 31 Jan 2003 8:08 am
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Damn! I was really hoping to learn that thing on my Custom T8. I didn't think there were pedals involved... 
Hell with it, I'll learn it as close as I can without pedals!
-andy-
(great stuff!! Buddy is the King, no doubt about it!)[This message was edited by Andy Zynda on 31 January 2003 at 08:08 AM.] |
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Dave Birkett
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Oxnard, CA, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2003 9:30 am
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In Herb's original question to Buddy:
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| with Tater saying "now here's my friend Buddy Emmons with his own composition...") |
These days, how often do artists let their musicians do something like this, make a real musical statement? I think my biggest complaint about NCS is that there isn't much pickin' goin' on. |
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Jesse Pearson
From:
San Diego , CA
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Posted 31 Jan 2003 9:47 am
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| Man, what a great sound. What would be a good used double neck pedal steel, that I could do the same set up on, without it costing an arm and a leg? Thanks |
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