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The Ghost of Fender Past

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I have another story to tell (OH NO NOT AGAIN)

As always my stories revolve about my Fender past.All of my stories are factual. There has been nothing added or left unsaid.

This is another TRUE story. It involves 2 members of this Forum. Both of whom I have never met. I knew little or nothing of either one except on occasion I would see a post in Buy and Sell with their names attached to the thread.

This Forum which at times has caused me heartburn has also been a God send for me as I met so many nice people on here,and so far as the "Agitators" I leave them in the washing machine where "Agitators" belong.

I have often tried to quit,but the thought of people who have treated me as I would treat them have stopped me. Dont for one minute think I didnt try hard. There are a few on here I have confided in regarding my intentions of leaving.

But when I see the support and prayers for my wife and myself,I find that difficult to do and feel as though Im leaving my friends, goodbye thanks for the prayers and Im outta here. Wham Bam Gone. Its not easy when you have the friends I have on this Forum.

I have recently made two more friends who made an inpact on me, especially one in particular,not that the other was not as instrumental to this story. But the one fellow is primarily the person I make reference to.

I have had a number of Fender steel guitars in my lifetime,what I refer to as a number are fewer than you think. The most I have owned has been maybe three,maybe four.

I had access to anything I wanted while I was a Fender rep dating back to 1950,a 17 year old high school dropout with no interest in school.My life was the steel guitar,and the players of that era many years ago.

I had a triple neck Custom as my first ever Fender,and it was through that Fender that I met Don Randall and Leo Fender,and that shaped my life from that day on.

This story will be told in its entirety when my book is published and not now. There are reasons and one of them is due to the fact that the story is long and I dont tell Long Stories,you just imagine I do,but I dont.

My very first Fender guitar is a long story,but it being defective and my buying it off of a former Fender salesman and being unaware it was indeed defective and not the property of the salesman who sold it to me.

It was the property of Fender Fine Electric Instruments out of Fullerton California.The salesman I bought this from no longer represented Fender and was selling off his remaining samples. Enough of that.

A number of years ago,1988 to be exact,I found my long lost Fender Quad,that story is in the Feb 1988 Guitar Player magazine written by Richard Smith under the "rare bird" topic.

Dave Van Allen can attest to this so if anyone is skeptical regarding the authenticity of my story,Dave can fill you in on the details.

The second issue deals with another Fender Custom guitar which I played back in 1952 and this guitar is shown in the 1954 Fender catalogue with myself sitting at the guitar.

I lost track of that guitar,why should I have kept it when there were so many guitars for me to choose from?

This guitar was returned to Fender and another took its place as Leo and Don always wanted me to have a new guitar.

Two years ago,a Forum member posted that a Vintage dealer in the midwest had a Triple Custom for sale.

Since I have a ledger given to me by the late Forrest White,I was able to track this For Sale guitar back to its origin.

I saw by the serial # it was in fact the very same guitar I had returned in place of a newer model.

I bought that guitar,and it survived the years of use and more than likley many hard knocks and saloons and Honky Tonks,but that was not unusual as these Fenders are built like a Sherman Tank. Leo saw to that.

The guitar is in mint condition and like the quad Iam a bit sensitive taking either one out on a gig for fear of either one being stolen.

I often thought of looking for another although I didnt really need one,if another came along to my interest I would maybe just maybe like to have still another.

Now go to Buy & Sell dated November 11 2002 look for a triple neck Custom For Sale,with O interest in this guitar.

Quite possible the fact that this guitar had been re-finised diminished its chances of being of interest to a collector. It is possible also that some thought the asking price was a bit high,that may be so as well.

I kept going back to Buy & Sell hoping to see someone give this guitar a home,a good home where someone out there would appreciate it despite the battle scars it has suffered over the years and years of hard use.

As I kept looking at Buy & Sell,there was NO interest,so I e mailed the seller and asked for additional information about this guitar and he was kind enough to answer my questions honestly. He was selling this guitar in "as is" condition. He never one time mis-represented himself or the guitar he was looking to sell.

He told me what he knew of this instrument and how he aquirred it from an auction. He agreed to send me jpg's of his For Sale guitar and like a man of good character that he is,explained that the guitar had been re-finished.

He also went on to say he was looking for a Double 8 Stringmaster,but added he wanted one that is in mint condition a special one to be his exact words to me.

I wrote him and told him I knew where there was one For Sale fitting that description.

I then e mailed the Forum member who owned that "mint" condition Stringmaster and asked him to send me jpgs as I had someone who may be interested in his beautiful Fender Stringmaster.

I received the jpgs by e mail a few hours later and forwarded them to the seller of the Custom.

Go to BUY and SELL and look for December 13th as this Stringmaster stood un-noticed and I posted on what a fine guitar this was. I had nothing to gain so far as a monetary situation I just wanted to see these two guys get together.

You will see my comments re the Double 8 S/M

I was able to hook these two people up like a "match maker" setting up a date for two people who may have something in common but may never have met.

It worked,both of these two guys thanked me for the effort that I made,there was nothing in this for me other than the fact that I hate seeing any of Leo Fenders steel guitars being ignored and having to look for a home.

I have a thing about that. I negotiated a price with the seller of the Triple Custom and he and the seller of the Stringmaster agreed on what was fair for both.

That agreement was finalized by the two Forum members,and then I was contacted by the seller of the Custom thanking me for helping him get exactly what he had been looking for, for a long time,in fact he was thrilled with his new found Fender.

The owner of the Custom e mailed me and we too came to an agreement,I bought his battle scarred, but otherwise GREAT guitar. I will have this veteran of the past re-furbished back to its original condition and it like my others will have a home,one that it so rightfully deserves.

There is much more to this "re-union" of these two guitars that I will write in my book,I think it will interest all of you Fender guys.

The people in this little story are both Forum members and post little if any and do not particpate in issues of debate. All they want from the Forum is exactly what they recieved,a friendship and a couple of great guitars have found a new home.


I thank Sunny Callen owner of the Custom which I now have and Dana Duplan former owner of the Stringmaster.I have never found two nicer people than these two people,,how could they be all that bad if they too have the very same passion for FENDER as I have and always will.

I cannot thank Sunny enough for what he has done and as for Dana,I never knew a nicer guy. They both will share a place in my book of Fender memories and with their permission will tell this story.

I dont think Leo ever realized what impact he had on the business he loved so much. His personal pleasure was to see a musican happy with his product.It was NOT all about MONEY as it is today,he had pride in what he did.

And those who admire Leo Fender take pride in the great instruments they own.

I know Sunny does,,Dana does,,and you know where Im coming from.

Merry Christmas

And bOb, I will send a check to you for the sale of my guitar. I will ask Sunny to close his thread now. Sunny if you are seeing this you can close her down.

Jody .who said I tell long stories?????. This
is one of my short one's Image

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Post by Dana Duplan »

Jody, thanks so much for hooking Sunny and me up, and especially for the kind words. I can't begin to tell you how great that makes me feel. Oh, and I always love those long stories--can't wait for the book! Like you said, it's the friendships I've/we've made via the Forum that makes it coun't!
Happy Holidays.
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Post by George Keoki Lake »

I know Jody has met more than a few "nicer" guys on the Forum ... I like to think I am included amongst them. My trusty old 1953 Fender Triple Custom is 50 years old and in better shape than I am ! I love that old beast with a passion except for those 3 legs...never did care for that idea which Leo had for the Triple Custom. Leo should have listened to the wisdom of young Jody who advised him at the time to include 4 legs instead of 3. Anyone who has ever played the Stringmaster will understand why 4 legs are much preferred to 3. Glad everything worked out happily for the 3 of you on those deals Jody. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by George Keoki Lake on 21 December 2002 at 09:30 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Post by Andy Zynda »

You know Jody, there are other Fender acquisitions out there that YOU are directly responsible for too. My Custom T8 is an excellent example. When I was looking for a "Stage-standup-playable" Lapsteel type thing, I was dead-ended until I got an Email from Todd Weger. It seems that he had been in contact with you when he was looking and you helped him find what he wanted. He contacted me, gave me some excellent advice, the 2 days later, sent me a link to an Ebay auction with a buy-it-now, and I snagged it as fast as I could. Todd was passing on YOUR teachings just as if you were there in person.
Todd thinks the world of you and he is just one of many, myself included.
As my (gearhead) luck would have it, one of the pickups was open, and one was weak. So I got in contact with Jason Lollar learn to rewind them, and Ted Weber, to build a magnetizer to re-mag the old AlNiCo magnets.
I now have a perfect T8, and have the ability and the contacts to restore the old beaters that may not be working as they should.
So, in a round about way, you are still selling and spreading the word about (in my opinion) one of the greatest inventor/innovators that walked the planet, Leo Fender. May god rest his soul, and grant him the sainthood he deserves among musicians and builders.
All hail Saint Leo! Image
Hopefully, someday, the current Fender corp will realize that Fenders Ghost is their biggest competition. And that it doesn't have to be that way.
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Post by Sunny Callen »

Jody, thanks for the kind comments and I really look forward to the book - again, I'm glad the Custom T-8 found its way to the master - we treasure you and the great storehouse and library of Fender lore you share with us. . .

Dana - just restrung the Stringmaster and it sounds sweeter yet! I love it! Maybe Uncle Sam and DOT/TSA will give me a chance to enjoy it this coming year - hope so.

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Post by Gene Jones »

Years ago when I bought a Fender 1000, I retired my "road-weary" Custom T-8, and then spent an entire winter carefully refinishing it. I was really proud of it, but everyone kept telling me I had ruined it by refinishing it so I ended up storing (hiding) it under a bed. After meeting Jody Carver on the Forum and after many e-mail conversations and exchange of pictures he convinced me that I should still be proud of my old Fender that gave me so many "miles" of pleasure and loyalty. I AM proud of it, thanks to Jody, and can't resist showing it again. Gene Jones

Click here to see the big picture.

The folowing clip was played on this guitar during it's "active" life 47 years ago: this

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Gene, it looks great, even though you're taking my job! See that Jody? Everybody's gotta get into the act! Image

It's a beauty, really.
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Post by Andy Volk »

I'm pining away for my former triple custom. Sniff.

Nice steel guitar story for the holidays, Jody. Sort of a 24 string version of O'Henry's "Gift of the Magi" but with a happy ending.
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I'm pining away for my former triple custom. Sniff.

Nice steel guitar story for the holidays, Jody. Sort of a 24 string version of O'Henry's "Gift of the Magi" but with a happy ending.
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Post by Jody Carver »

If you look at Extended Family on a thread
started by my friend Dave Van Allen,I think you will see that dreams sometimes do come true. My daughter wrote something for me as
she knew how much I missed those days of my life.

Take a look,and remember dreams sometimes do
come true.

Sunny Callen in one of the biggest and kindest people I have ever met,and he too belongs to Fender History,Sunny will play a major role in my upcoming book and he deserves much more than just THANKS.

The Title of my Book is "The LAST FENDER GUITAR". The ending came about quite by
accident when my wife was hospitalized last
Feb 20th.

The ending is very sad and I wished it never
happened but it did.

Thanks to all of you,George, Andy, Todd,Dana.
Gene,Howard the inquiring "Photographer" Image
and most of all to SUNNY CALLEN.

Sunny,I'll bet Leo is smiling just about now.
Image Image You see I just wrote the words,you helped me write the book.

Good Luck with your new "Blonde" and be safe.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Jody The Long Story Specialist,,most times too looooooong.

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Post by George Keoki Lake »

Gene, your guitar looks really super. You can quit hiding it under your bed. I wish I had ordered the walnut model instead of the blonde job back in 1953. (Blonde furniture was all the rage back then!) Walnut sure looks a heck of a lot richer IMO.

Although I do not profess to be R/Catholic, I must agree, the Pope should rightfully decree saint-hood upon Leo..."Saint Leo of Anaheim", has a nice 'ring' to it. Ah well, if he won't do it, perhaps we can still have our own steel guitar Saints...a LIVING SAINT without any question would be, "St. Jody of Milford". Amen to that!
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Keoki thanks. It was originally blond (I believe Jody said the correct color terminology was butterscotch instead of blond) I also thought the wood-grain looked better than the original when I changed it. Gene
P.S. I had an e-mail asking who the vocalist was on that clip...it was just some guy I met while I was in the Army. Image
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Post by Rick Collins »

Gene, that's a beautiful Fender Custom. I have a Dual Professional;___they sound great. The best sounding Fender steel guitar ever made is the 26" scale Stringmaster. Does anyone have a 26" triple-neck they'd like to sell?

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Herb...what can you expect from a dumb Canuck like me ? Yah, you're correct...he's the Saint of Fullerton.
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All of you are wrong



He always had a "deal for you" Image Image Image
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Gene- Take that guitar, imagine a dark walnut finish; then smack it with a hammer a buncha times and scratch a metal watch band on the trapezoids for forty years, and you'll have ... MY BABY!
Nothing comes close to it for tone (and I own a Ricky). I'm following Jody 's and others advice, though, and NOT refinishing it.
I just hate having to wrap my leg around to steady it...
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Page
That is what I refer to as "The Middle Leg"
syndrome. See my comments in the Archives.

I dont use the legs,I did have Leo put 4 legs
on one of my customs years back.It was better
but Leo told me I was wrong. How could that
be? Image

Look for my solution coming soon to this Forum.

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Post by Jody Carver »

Question for Brad.

Brad this thread is much wider than the norm.

Are you suggesting that I have a "middle age
spread" or are you allowing me more space for these long stories. Image or all of the
above? Image. And one more time,,Merry Christmas to everyone and good health for the New Year.

Thanks again to Sunny Callen and Dana Duplan



Mike Black a good friend and a good steel player who knows Western Swing better than anyone I know. as Mike would say.

Adios

J/C edited make the thread narrower Its too
wide and Im narrow minded. Image I have a small
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Post by George Keoki Lake »

Yah...how come it's so wide ? I have to scroll back and forth to read what's there.
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Image
I hear the complaints and I'm trying to make it "smaller" so the text won't be off the screen. Image (I'll keep trying but I've always had this problem.....either too big or too small, never just right) Image<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 23 December 2002 at 05:28 AM.]</p></FONT>
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Gene: Size doesn't matter.
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Size dont matter????

Easy for you to say.
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...Brad...HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
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