Is this C6th or lower by Buddy Emmons

Bas Kapitein · Post by **Bas Kapitein** » 17 Jan 2025 4:36 am

Buddy Emmons impressed me with his great pure steel tone in this song. Unlike anything I heard him play before. It sounds to me like a steel tuned lower than C6th. But who has more info about it.
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Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 17 Jan 2025 6:14 am

Sounds like regular E9th to me.

Andrew Frost · Post by **Andrew Frost** » 20 Jan 2025 12:17 pm

The intro sounds like moving into a 5 chord from 2 above, on the D, 9th string.
The tune is in C, so he's starting that G7 stuff at fret 5. I agree It does indeed have an interesting low sounding resonance in this mix...

Bill Ferguson · Post by **Bill Ferguson** » 21 Jan 2025 7:42 am

Are you sure that is Buddy.

That almost sounds like a non-pedal steel.

Bas Kapitein · Post by **Bas Kapitein** » 22 Jan 2025 12:54 am

Thanks Donny, Andrew and Bill for giving me your opinions. Bill; yes I am sure, it is stated so in the story in the CD`s booklet and apart from that, it is one of Buddy’s signature licks. But what I was curious about was the timbre of the playing like his guitar was a “baritone” steel like there are baritone 6 string guitars. It might even be a software thing. There used to be one-octave-below pedals and Buddy was always experimenting with tone. And yes the thought of a non pedal guitar crossed my mind to

Marco Schouten · Post by **Marco Schouten** » 22 Jan 2025 11:30 am

In 2004 Buddy lowered the 10th string on the E9th from B to G#.
Not sure on which guitar, maybe on his JCH?
Maybe you are hearing this low note?

Ron Funk · Post by **Ron Funk** » 2 Feb 2025 2:18 pm

These are two E9th options to play that short passage.....

John McClung · Post by **John McClung** » 2 Feb 2025 2:56 pm

I agree with Andrew Frost, it's a great lick and one he used at the end of verse 1 in Judy Collin's "Someday Soon." I nicknamed that lick "sagging into the 5 chord"!

Colin Boutilier · Post by **Colin Boutilier** » 2 Feb 2025 3:15 pm

It wasn't unheard of for Buddy to play other people's steels on a session. Perhaps this is a 12 string extended tuning, with a little more low string range?

Ernie Renn · Post by **Ernie Renn** » 2 Feb 2025 6:41 pm

I was told the whole album was Buddy’s “Brown Bart” Emmons LeGrande into a Brad Sarno “Black Box,” thru a Goodrich Volume Pedal into a Nashville 112.

It’s on E9. I’d play it this way…

Ron Funk · Post by **Ron Funk** » 2 Feb 2025 8:06 pm

Thanks Ernie

‘Seems I got hung up trying to find the lowest possible voicing / timbre for those first few notes.

Appreciate ya!

Ron

Ernie Renn · Post by **Ernie Renn** » 2 Feb 2025 8:18 pm

A great intro… Glad I could help…

Bas Kapitein · Post by **Bas Kapitein** » 9 Feb 2025 9:48 am

Thank you all for replying. My question was not what Buddy was playing, because it is one of his his signature licks, but on what guitar, because the timbre is low. I play this on a guitar with a D tuning and it is still not sounding as sonorous as this track.
Ernie is probably right, but I still wonder.

Ernie Renn · Post by **Ernie Renn** » 9 Feb 2025 10:10 am

I was talking to Brad Sarno about the Black Box. He said I should go listen to that Willie album. At that time Buddy was using Brown Bart in the studio. He was going simpler around that time. I don’t recall him affirming that was the setup, but if it hadn’t been he would’ve said something.