Obsolete Instruments?

Andy Greatrix · Post by **Andy Greatrix** » 29 Aug 2002 4:14 pm

To Ray and George, I was talking about the guy who wrote that lap steels were obsolete.
I thought that I was clear about that, but apparently I wasn't. My opoligies.

R. L. Jones · Post by **R. L. Jones** » 29 Aug 2002 6:49 pm

Just as an observer, The Hawiian steel guitar is becoming more popular, The Sheerhorns , Beards, etc. Dobros , Benoit`s . All these are brand names for the old Hawiian steel`s ,accoustic. For years theyve been called dobros, DOBRO is Gibson`s brand name for steel guitar.

R.L.Jones

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 29 Aug 2002 9:59 pm

wow, this topic has really touched a nerve here. I knew it would!

John Drury · Post by **John Drury** » 30 Aug 2002 4:45 am

Not a viable instrument? This dork has clearly never heard Billy Robinson, or Kayton Roberts spank the plank. The guy is probably making a fortune off of all these supposed canoe paddles people are sending him thinking that they aren't worth squat.

John Drury
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Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 30 Aug 2002 1:31 pm

Tom Morell,,Joaquin,,,Boggs,,Koefer..John Ely,,,Jerry Byrd,,,Speedy,,,Remington. Vance
Terry..Roy Wiggins,,what more can I say?

There are others but the names go on and on.

These players recordings are available presently...you tell me. Obsolete??? I DONT THINK SO. Who else did I leave out???

George Keoki Lake · Post by **George Keoki Lake** » 30 Aug 2002 3:49 pm

No problem Andy....just wanted to be sure.

Jody, you left out one BIG name... "JODY CARVER" !

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 31 Aug 2002 7:33 am

George
I have never considered myself in the class of those mentioned. I tell long stories though.

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 31 August 2002 at 12:55 PM.]

John Kavanagh · Post by **John Kavanagh** » 5 Sep 2002 7:44 am

"Obsolete" is a funny word to use for a musical instrument, anyway. Different tools do different jobs well, and as musical needs change, sometimes the tools change.

But musical fashion is a very changeable thing, and the mainstream isn't the only stream, and people are always finding new ways to use old tools.

My perspective on this is that I've spent most of my adult life playing the viola da gamba, an instrument that was first declared "obsolete" almost 300 years ago. But I like it, dammit, and I'm stubborn.

Don't ANY of you guys sell your Stringmasters. And if you do, call me first.

Warren Slavin · Post by **Warren Slavin** » 7 Sep 2002 5:20 pm

Jody Carver said it all on the subject of obsolete lap steels -- I would like to add the many Hawaiian lap steel players that thrilled the world before Pedal Steel. Pedal Steel is great for C/W music just as lap steel was played in C/W bands before Pedals came out. Those names are: David Keli'i, Dick McIntire, Andy Iona, Bobby Nichols, Danny Stewart, Joe Custino, Jules Ah See, Barney Isaacs, Sol Ho'opi'i, Tommy Castro, Hal Aloma, Eddy Pang, Jake Keli'ikoa.

These were the Hawaiian Lap Steel Players that we listened to back then and today -- all are deceased now -- I'm sure I missed some. Hawaiian Music sounds best on a lap steel or a non-pedal console.

Thank you for listening (reading).

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 7 Sep 2002 6:21 pm

Rock guitar icon Steve Kimock plays "lapsteel" for about a third of his show, mostly on a Fender double 6.

Mike Ihde · Post by **Mike Ihde** » 7 Sep 2002 8:31 pm

Don't forget Joe Perry from Aerosmith. He has played Lap Steel on plenty of their cuts and a few years back he got a custom 6 string Pedal Steel from the late Freeman Cougar which he used on their last album "Just Push Play." So, there are still a lot of guys using it in the Pop/Rock world.

Andy Greatrix · Post by **Andy Greatrix** » 7 Sep 2002 11:02 pm

Also the guy in pink floyd plays lap steel.

Andy Volk · Post by **Andy Volk** » 8 Sep 2002 3:41 am

And let's also remember ...
Steve Howe, Cindy Cashdollar, Greg Leisz, Gary Brandin, Ben Harper, Kelly Joe Phelps, John Ely, Alan Akaka, Sonny Rhodes, Freddie Roulette, Paul Franklin, Jerry Douglas, Bobby Ingano, Rob Icks, The Campbell Brothers, Robert Randolph, David Lindley, Jr. Brown and many more.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 8 Sep 2002 9:04 pm

The great blues guitarist Jimmie Vaughan also plays lap steel and took some lessons with Jerry Byrd.

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Andy Volk · Post by **Andy Volk** » 9 Sep 2002 2:28 am

I remember an interview where Jimmy said his personal nickname for lap steel was "Sleepy Guitar".

Guitar_Bobby_Leach · Post by **Guitar_Bobby_Leach** » 11 Sep 2002 12:45 pm

Is my Triple 8 Remington obsolete already ? Dang ! I just had it made 2 years ago.
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