Another entry into the amp/cab effects simulator/modeler units. I've had good luck with the ToneX pedal and Fractal FX3. Other units I've haven't tried include the Quad Cortex, Line 6, Boss, Kemper and a few others.
You can import amp and cab IR's although you can't create them with this unit. It does have 4 effects loops and customizable labels and encoder for the 6 foot switches. Fender also offers 10" and 12" FRFR powered cabinets. Unfortunately most of the demos feature distortion.
Here's some good reviews I've found showing this unit's capabiilties.
The TMP arrived yesterday evening and I didn't have time to do much with it. I hooked up a Telecaster and headphones and run thru the factory presets. I was disappointed, I found nothing that would be suitable for PSG unless you like high gain and distortion. I haven't made any of my own presets yet but will try today with my XR-18 mixer and Yamaha studio monitors.
I quit using modelers about 7 years ago and went back to real amps. I had the L6 Pod xtLive and the Pod HD500 and could not get a good clean amp sound. That was before I started playing PSG. After I got my Mullen I tried a Katana and a Spark 40, both were ok but nothing to brag about. Then I got a Fender Tone Master Deluxe Reverb and it sounded like a fender amp but then I got a Quilter Steelaire rack mount and stopped using the Fender. I then got a TB202 and a Quilter cab and that was great until I bought a Kemper. Today the TB202 still sits next to the Mullen but I often run a cable to the Kemper to use the effects in the Kemper.
I profiled the Tone Master Deluxe and it sounds great. I haven't profiled the 2 Quilters yet but hope to soon. I ordered the TMP thinking I could get more of the Fender amps without actually buying more amps, it seemed like a good idea cost and space-wise but after what I heard yesterday I'm not sure yet, I'll have to make some presets from scratch to see. At least I have something to do in my old age.
After getting the TMP setup on my xr-18 and studio monitors in the living room and checking out the Fender amps I can say I feel much better about my purchase. The amps sound just as good as the TM Deluxe amp I bought 3 years ago. I paid $800 for that one amp and the price has gone up to $949 today so the TMP is worth what I paid for it because I have more Fender amps in a much smaller space. I will be selling the amp and keeping the TMP.
I checked it out this morning using a Grote ES 335 with P90 pickups and it sounds great. The next step is to move the TMP into the studio and try it with the Mullen. I set up the control software on the computer in the living room and it works as it should. There is no iOS app (yet) so until that happens I can't use my iPad to control it so I'll have to install the software on my Mac laptop and hope the iPad app is coming soon. There really isn't much room left in my studio near the Mullen to setup a table for the laptop but it beats getting up from the steel to get to the computer or sitting the TMP on a table and there is no way I can control it on the floor with my feet. Other than that I'm very happy with the TMP.
There's so many possible choices for non-amp gear now that it's hard to choose. I was able to dial out all the distortion in my Fractal FX3 and ToneX pedal setups and can get crystal clear tone out of either now. The Quilter TT15 amp is not a great FRFR powered cab so whatever you choose you still have to add an amp if desired. I run my setups into headphones and then into a Zoom R24 recorder and haven't powered on an amp in a few months.
It seems to be generally getting good reviews, up to the $1699 purchase price. I use a Helix and haven't touched an amp in years. Clean sounds are probably the hardest to get quality on any of these units, but once you're familiar with available adjustments, the results are amazing and easily adjusted as needed or immediately recalled.
I'll say the presets are all rubbish on ALL of the units...for various reasons enough to be another thread. But the manufacturer will always struggle with the player plugging in THEIR instrument, to sound as good as someone else's. We all know every brand of guitar, PSG included, have their own signature sound. Then when a player swaps out pickups, it's hard to expect the unit to react in an equal favorable way. Regular amps are so much simpler in the fact you just plug in and the typical extra adjustments in modelers are not there in an amp. So the amps get dismissed as always better, because IN GENERAL just plugging in gets immediate results.
This is NOT a debate about tweaking or not...but anyone that has done serious studio recording, knows there are so many items from mic choice, placement, room acoustics, mic preamps and so many other items in the signal chain. Possibly consider that parallel to a modeler than to a sound you hear on a bar room stage.
Any rate...my $.02 and I'm sticking to it.
Lastly...the units tend to emulate a "recorded, studio" sound. NOT the sound of a JBL D130 blowing air thru your trousers. Two vastly different sounds and experiences.
If you're using it live, hopefully your going thru an appropriate speaker or PA with a sound person that has a set of ears.
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It seems they really went all out on the I/O options for the TMP. It also probably has the nicest layout for a modeler.
I'm a big fan of the Neural DSP plugins, so I'm still waiting to see if they pull off the promised options on the Quad Cortex. My favorite cleans from a modeler ever come from their Archetype Cory Wong plugin, which I use in my DAW constantly.
For a Fender modeler, all I really want is cleans, and I was disappointed to find that the '63 Vibroverb isn't in there, for example. I would have been way more excited about having every legendary amp they ever made modeled perfectly than dozens of amps modeled decently, including high gain 5150s and stuff. I understand they want to be another all in one solution but Fender built their name on cleans and stuff like the Bassman which sound great clean and then overdrive well when pushed. I don't care what their take on a modeled 80s Marshall is.
Thought I’d share a quick clip I did of the steel preset I’m using on the Tone Master Pro. Obviously, this is a guitar workstation that we’ve been working on but I’m very happy with the results with my ReSound 65. Plan on using this for my gigs going forward.
Btw, this is directly from the TM Pro via USB to my iPhone camera.
This pedal does a nice job of combining the modeler with a configurable floor pedal. I am using the Fractal FX3 and the ToneX pedals a lot. The ToneX lacks the effects and floor pedal functions that this has and the Fractal is a lot more money after you add in the optional floor pedal.
Edward Dixon wrote:Rick, did you by any chance share this on the cloud?
Edward, I can definitely put it up on the cloud. I am using a York IR that replicates a JBL D120F but there are other IRs that sound as good for steel. I will post as soon as i can and let you know the name.
Thanks! I got the "Steel studio EV" preset this morning. I didn't think I was going to find it but I did. There is no search function that I could find but I did it anyway. It's under the genres tab in the country category in case others are looking for it.
I like the way you have it set up with the effects included but not all on. Looks very flexible for live use. Thanks for sharing.
