Man I love it when the big dogs are showin thier teeth & fighting,,
cause a little dog like me can sneak in & steal a few bones of knowledge
Come on ,,someone throw em another bone,, Im learning a lot here about steels (no pun intended)I would say these guys know what thier talking about & I respect them both,,,so keep it up guys,,sick,em boy !!
If your old PP is sounding a little tired and lifeless? You too can have "That timbre" For rushed delivery just send 29.95.Make check or money order to Bobby's PP repair and used tires.Or call 555-BRB-549 Operators are standing by.Don't let a dead PP cost you another session.This offer want last long and is in no way affiliated with Bobbe Seymour or Steel Guitar Nashville.Offer void where prohibited.
This thead is so intriguing that I had to jump in.
Bobbe - Thanks for the plug.
Johnny - As one of the "gentlemen" mentioned by Bobbe I'm not offended at all by your comments. I did do a session recently, a whole album, in fact. It's selling down on Broadway like hotcakes. Cold hotcakes! I used a "not keeping up with the times" P/P that you've played a few times, sounding mellifluous.
Cheers, all.
C#<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Cal Sharp on 12 June 2003 at 01:54 AM.]</p></FONT>
On one of the last sessions the "Maestro" had on his "Q&A" forum he gave us a great tip on an adjustment to push pull guitars that effects the sound. I remember running out to my shop to verify the "method", as always he was correct. I am sure that post is still availiable.
I probably may wish I hadn't, but I would like to make a comment if I may without getting blasted or having a problem with anyone. Johnny did play an Emmons PP from time to time when he was with Ernest Tubb for about a year before he got his first Zum in December of 1979. My first D10 guitar was a 1972 Emmons PP. It warped, and was not playable. I changed brands to a Zum in 1982. We both agree that the Emmons PP is a fine guitar, but we have both chosen to play something else, just as I'm sure many of you have during your years of playing.
Joan <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Joan Cox on 12 June 2003 at 08:30 AM.]</p></FONT>
I've been told tightening the screws that holds the necks and changer can make a difference.More body contact.Maybe Bobbe really got the idea from Ann.But I wouldn't know. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Bobby Boggs on 12 June 2003 at 10:22 AM.]</p></FONT>
Bobby Boggs, I'll clear up two statements you just made, First off, the name of my Emmons P-P service is: "The First National Morgue and Delicatesen". And the other question is, who is Ann?
From what Ive been reading, thightening the changer bolts really makes a difference in timbre on the Emmons??
Well I just got the old pipe wrench out & pulled my guts out on my Emmons changer bolts.
Funny, it still sounds just like my Carter.
Theres a bone for ya
Ya got me on that one Bobby LOL
I just like to spread a little humor on these threads about tone & sound.
Really got to watch what ya say about tone between models of steels,,,,can get a dog fight goin in no time.
I have a Carter & an Emmons & I love them both because they both have that sound
Rick,glad you found the humor in my post.I learned a long time ago that the tone thing is way to subjective to argue about.The Emmons PP tone is my all time favorite.But I like others also.-----------bb<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Bobby Boggs on 12 June 2003 at 08:55 PM.]</p></FONT>
Yeah, that's my guitar. Remember they wouldn't let us take the buses in the prison, so getting equipment in was a hassle and we both played my guitar. BTW, Mike Cass & I came down to see you at the Station Inn a few weeks ago but we got there too early and we went to Robert's to kill some time and Mike got sick so we didn't make it back. But I'll see ya sometime,
Cal, this isn't the question, the question is, " How did you guys get back OUT of prison?" ( Ha! )
And thanks for loaning me someone elses coat in Wisconsin, when you were with Faron and I was with Paycheck! That coat kept me from freezing!
Talk about steel players helping each other out! Thank the Lord!!!
Bobbe, I hope you have all your adjustment and tuneup secrets written down somewhere - just in case you get caught in one of those micro downdrafts or whatever in your plane someday.
here's my one cent worth: i've heard close as i can come to 'that' sound from my zum with the stock pickup recording direct into the board, also with the zum with an old emmons pickup. also from my old wood neck/body emmons with the stock pickup and with the zum pickup. i've also spent nights with all these configurations when i couldn't get a tone i could stand at all and it made me feel like a loser all night long. my third steel, a fat back emmons (also wood neck/body) with split coil pickups seems to have that warm growling acid-tinged tone more naturally than the others...but i think it's mostly in your fingers and ears, and the louder you have to play, the worse it is...and if your not tuned well enough to relax and pick without thinking, it never sounds good. also, i've beat myself up all night when it sounds sucky to me...and people i trust have told me the tone was perfect out front...but i couldn't tell 'cause i wasn't there!
I have an interesting question, How long do you have to leave a Emmons P-P in a hot band trailer in the St. Louis sunshine in the summer before it warps? I just got a very interesting e-mail from someone that saw it happen many years ago. I bet there is someone here that knows.
I wonder how long any other guitar would last under those conditions, I wonder how long a composite,fibre glass or plastic guitar would hold up. How many of you leave your guitar in a band trailer for three days or more at a time? I think I'll do some testing. How 'bout the trunk of a car? In the summer?
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<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 13 June 2003 at 09:13 AM.]</p></FONT>
