Julian Tharpe
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Julian Tharpe
Some great playing here....
https://www.reverbnation.com/deancharle ... 98-matilda
Changed title to refer to the correct last name.
https://www.reverbnation.com/deancharle ... 98-matilda
Changed title to refer to the correct last name.
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I just went back and read a bunch of old threads about Julian. I haven't been a member very long. Such a sad and strange story. Seems to be a lot of baggage surrounding this.
Every link to his music was a bad link. I found one song on Youtube with Jimmy Bryant, a short clip of him talking and tuning his guitar and some really rare expensive records.
What a shame. Some of the most incredible playing on any instrument I have ever heard. His music should be more available.
Every link to his music was a bad link. I found one song on Youtube with Jimmy Bryant, a short clip of him talking and tuning his guitar and some really rare expensive records.
What a shame. Some of the most incredible playing on any instrument I have ever heard. His music should be more available.
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Remarkable ability!!!
A bit 'over the top' in places? Maybe, but how I'd enjoy having that capacity and muting it with some good taste.
He really was a great player, and the fat chords remind me of Curly.
A bit 'over the top' in places? Maybe, but how I'd enjoy having that capacity and muting it with some good taste.
He really was a great player, and the fat chords remind me of Curly.
Roger Rettig - Emmons D10
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(8+9: 'Day' pedals) Williams SD-12 (D13th: 8+6), Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and several old Martins.
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Julian Tharpe - Previous Tuning Discussions
Some old threads with some insight.
His "F9th" had a lot of natural similarities of a C6th with D's placed all over... Dm-"almost"-Dorian which in a C6th looking at the D string become evident too.
He recorded some very Late 60's/Early 70's styled PostBop/HardBop Album with Maurice Anderson in the early times.
Two very different men, but with a like inclination for modern Jazz in Steel Guitar. Maurice can be heard doing some of that "Jazz-Chicken-Picking" Tharpe was so very effective at... Zane Beck could be heard doing that quite well too in that time. Regretfully, some of the style proved to not stand the test of times and thus became a lost art.
ZB too, played a unique E13th with 5P & 5K which was very "universal"... just at a very pleasant higher "E"-tuning-based-pitch, very much like a "Swinging E9th". Zane King still plays evolutions of that tuning and nobody would be able to tell much the difference compared to E9th/C6/B6-Universal.
Keep in mind, in those times, many greats of PSG were not part of the Nashville A-Team and quite a good number of the early second generation in PSG were exposed to PostBop, HardBop, R&B, Soul (which all had Be-&-PostBop elements) in their younger musical heydays and thought the instrument had it to break into non-country music big time.
Discussion about the tuning:
For those who have joined here not Decades ago, Earnest Bovine is one who contributed a lot to understanding alternative tunings and some of the physics behind them. Here is his take on ONE of Julian Tharpe's setup and tunings:
www.steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/001039.html
20 string MSA:
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtop ... sc&start=0
On page 2, Maurice Anderson commented years ago about the "Joint D10" 20-string MSA they built him, and seems to indicated that JT changed the tuning and setup quite radically from the original idea of putting some sort of E9th and 6th tuning in the same "level" to an center-tuning with added strings on top and the bottom.
Which seems to suggest that JT went thru constant experimenting with tunings.
Here is Dan Burnham's YouTUBE videos on the Julian Tharpe tuning found on one 14 string BMI:
https://youtu.be/qFw8UuYi2zU
https://youtu.be/jq0FyETE6kc
https://youtu.be/EqNmpI4pBFo
https://youtu.be/a_yOtbp4ztY
https://youtu.be/fw_MHPHnDJo
https://youtu.be/0sAvsdctPD0
https://youtu.be/uSxxNNELBnA
... J-D.
His "F9th" had a lot of natural similarities of a C6th with D's placed all over... Dm-"almost"-Dorian which in a C6th looking at the D string become evident too.
He recorded some very Late 60's/Early 70's styled PostBop/HardBop Album with Maurice Anderson in the early times.
Two very different men, but with a like inclination for modern Jazz in Steel Guitar. Maurice can be heard doing some of that "Jazz-Chicken-Picking" Tharpe was so very effective at... Zane Beck could be heard doing that quite well too in that time. Regretfully, some of the style proved to not stand the test of times and thus became a lost art.
ZB too, played a unique E13th with 5P & 5K which was very "universal"... just at a very pleasant higher "E"-tuning-based-pitch, very much like a "Swinging E9th". Zane King still plays evolutions of that tuning and nobody would be able to tell much the difference compared to E9th/C6/B6-Universal.
Keep in mind, in those times, many greats of PSG were not part of the Nashville A-Team and quite a good number of the early second generation in PSG were exposed to PostBop, HardBop, R&B, Soul (which all had Be-&-PostBop elements) in their younger musical heydays and thought the instrument had it to break into non-country music big time.
Discussion about the tuning:
For those who have joined here not Decades ago, Earnest Bovine is one who contributed a lot to understanding alternative tunings and some of the physics behind them. Here is his take on ONE of Julian Tharpe's setup and tunings:
www.steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/001039.html
20 string MSA:
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtop ... sc&start=0
On page 2, Maurice Anderson commented years ago about the "Joint D10" 20-string MSA they built him, and seems to indicated that JT changed the tuning and setup quite radically from the original idea of putting some sort of E9th and 6th tuning in the same "level" to an center-tuning with added strings on top and the bottom.
Which seems to suggest that JT went thru constant experimenting with tunings.
Here is Dan Burnham's YouTUBE videos on the Julian Tharpe tuning found on one 14 string BMI:
https://youtu.be/qFw8UuYi2zU
https://youtu.be/jq0FyETE6kc
https://youtu.be/EqNmpI4pBFo
https://youtu.be/a_yOtbp4ztY
https://youtu.be/fw_MHPHnDJo
https://youtu.be/0sAvsdctPD0
https://youtu.be/uSxxNNELBnA
... J-D.
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Tablature KILLS SKILLS.
The uses of Tablature is addictive and has been linked to reduced musical fertility.
Those who produce Tablature did never use it.
I say it humorously, but I mean it.
A Little Mental Health Warning:
Tablature KILLS SKILLS.
The uses of Tablature is addictive and has been linked to reduced musical fertility.
Those who produce Tablature did never use it.
I say it humorously, but I mean it.
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Re: Julian Tharpe - Previous Tuning Discussions
Thanks for posting all these links JD. There was so much happening with the steel guitar back in the late 60's early 70's. It seems like jazz, the instrument went through a rapid development and has arrived at somewhat of an arrested state. Are there any live links to his music anywhere? It is hard to believe there wouldn't be more available. I see he recorded at least 5 albums. I am going on the hunt for these!J D Sauser wrote:Some old threads with some insight.
... J-D.